# Marvel's Avengers - early reviews seem positive \[edited title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 20, 2012, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406 "2012-04-20T13:18:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/261 "2012-05-09T22:51:11Z")
Ok, ok, I just have to say it. It makes no damned sense at all, but it’s been floating in my mind all week. By Grabthar’s Hammer, you shall be Avenge…er’ed. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/262 "2012-05-12T21:40:35Z")
I just saw it again today, and I was watching carefully…if that wasn’t Ian McKellen in the blink-and-you’ll-miss-it scene with Stan Lee near the end, then it was his double. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/263 "2012-05-12T22:10:07Z")
> [@Infovore](#): > > I just saw it again today, and I was watching carefully…if that wasn’t Ian McKellen in the blink-and-you’ll-miss-it scene with Stan Lee near the end, then it was his double. I’m gonna go ahead and say it wasn’t cuz he wasn’t in the credits, however there was another “as himself” name that I didn’t recognize, figured it was him ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/264 "2012-05-12T22:42:51Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > I’m gonna go ahead and say it wasn’t cuz he wasn’t in the credits, however there was another “as himself” name that I didn’t recognize, figured it was him If he was in it, he’d be uncredited. And the “as himself” was Stan Lee, I thought. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/265 "2012-05-12T22:51:40Z")
I looked up the other “As Himself” guys and I think they were local NY news broadcasters, featured in the news montage. ---
**Author:** ![Cayuga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Cayuga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cayuga)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/266 "2012-05-13T00:46:15Z")
[quote=“BunnyTVS, post:244, topic:619406”] > [@galen\_ubal](#): > > Oh and the real reason for posting is due to a co-workers [friend.](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2139505/Iron-Man-Mark-Pearson-builds-amazing-replica-suit-fibre-glass-cardboard.html?ITO=1490) Pretty cool. I’m impressed. But what in the world is a “panel beater”? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/267 "2012-05-13T01:17:47Z")
Favorite lines: “Hulk? Smash.” Stan Lee’s cameo: “Superheroes in New York? Give me a break!” As to the mid-credits scene: “To attack Earth is to court Death!” And then Thanos turns around with his little smile…for those who aren’t comics geeks, Thanos LITERALLY courts Death…the Marvel Universe personification of Death. It’s what the whole Infinity Gauntlet thing people are talking about as a likely sequel was about. Which is why, knowing Joss Whedon, I had to wonder whether it IS a sequel set-up, or whether Whedon made the whole movie just as an excuse to throw in that line and the reaction to it… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/268 "2012-05-13T03:44:12Z")
[quote=“Cayuga, post:266, topic:619406”] > [@BunnyTVS](#): > > Pretty cool. I’m impressed. > > But what in the world is a “panel beater”? It’s probably an arcane and wholly unGoogleable term for someone who beats panels. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/269 "2012-05-13T04:41:52Z")
> [@BunnyTVS](#): > > Pretty cool. I’m impressed. > > But what in the world is a “panel beater”? [A panel beater is a term used in some Commonwealth countries to describe a person who repairs vehicle bodies back to their factory state after having been damaged (e.g., after being involved in a collision).[1] In the USA the same job is done by an auto body mechanic.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panel_beater) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/270 "2012-05-13T21:50:55Z")
And now The Avengers has smashed all [second-weekend records](http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3442&p=.htm) as well. Go, Joss! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/271 "2012-05-14T01:31:37Z")
Woohoo! I’m loving it. A great movie, and recognized as such by moviegoers just about everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/272 "2012-06-26T15:18:57Z")
The FamilyT is going today because, according to Box Office Mojo, this is the day _The Avengers_ will break _Titanic_’s first-run grosses of $600,000,000, making it the second-highest grossing movie in the US (non-inflation adjusted). I’ll tell my daughter that it was her ticket that “beat _Titanic_”, which will make her all happy until she learns that Dad doesn’t really have the slightest idea as to _who’s_ ticket broke the record. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/273 "2012-06-26T15:21:01Z")
Hell I might see it again today just to ensure it. Screw you Titanic! ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/274 "2012-06-26T15:28:35Z")
We like _Titanic_, it’s one of my favorite movies. I’m just thrilled that Whedon was able to pull this film off as spectacularly as he did. ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/275 "2012-07-03T17:37:53Z")
Finally saw the movie last weekend, I thought it was great. It’s funny though, the overall bad guy scheme wasn’t very good and there were long stretches with not very much action, but Joss Whedon just manages to make character interactions so good. I especially liked Iron Man and Banner/Hulk. It’s really too bad good guys don’t kill the bad guys because that would make things so much simpler. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/276 "2012-07-03T18:33:06Z")
> [@control-z](#): > > It’s really too bad good guys don’t kill the bad guys because that would make things so much simpler. I’m not sure what you mean. In the Marvel movies, the good guys have been killing the _hell_ out of the bad guys. In fact, the only member of the Avengers who hasn’t murdered at least a dozen people… is the Hulk. And he’s the one they’re all scared of. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/277 "2012-07-03T19:04:37Z")
Miller: > [@](#): > > In the Marvel movies, the good guys have been killing the hell out of the bad guys. How so, other than cannon-fodder soldiers? Captain America didn’t kill the Red Skull or Arnim Zola, Thor didn’t kill Loki (in two movies) or Laufey and Iron Man wasn’t responsible for Obadiah Stane’s death. I didn’t see Iron Man II, is that where said killing happens? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/278 "2012-07-03T19:20:06Z")
> [@cmkeller](#): > > How so, other than cannon-fodder soldiers? What, cannon-fodder soldiers don’t have grieving families? And I’m not referring to the generic alien cannon fodder, but all the Germans Cap killed in WW2 (when he was using actual guns and not just flinging his patriotic frisbee around) and the numerous vaguely-Asian thugs smoked by Iron Man in his own movie, i.e. the hostage takers he took out with targeted munitions, plus the guys in the tank he blew up with a missile the size of a fountain pen, not to mention all the guys that got killed when he escaped from captivity in the first place. These guys are killers, let’s not dance around it. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/279 "2012-07-03T19:29:52Z")
Heroes generally are. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/280 "2012-07-03T19:30:05Z")
In wartime, when it’s army vs army, it’s kill or be killed. When it’s personal and one-on-one, these heroes defeat without killing. It means that when they have killed, it was done as a last, regretful resort. That’s not the attitude of someone I’d think of as a “killer.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406.md?page=15)