# Marvel's Avengers - early reviews seem positive \[edited title\]

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**Created:** [April 20, 2012, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406 "2012-04-20T13:18:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
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With all the accolades it’s getting, is it possible Whedon might get an Oscar nomination?

It’s not just a popular popcorn movie, it’s the skill involved in weaving together the varied characters and the elements from their separate movies into a cohesive single film. If it accomplishes not just that, but is seen as a good movie on its own merits as well, I’d say that should impress some people in the Academy.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
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Not a chance in Hell. It isn’t a “serious” movie, so the Academy will ignore it, as usual.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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I’ll be seeing it on Sun. afternoon with Mel, my fellow walk-on extra from the last night of filming in Cleveland. We’re going to be looking very closely to see if we have any actual screen time. We were there for the filming of the

scene in the Stuttgart art museum (gallery?) where Loki kills a guy, and the crowd runs away in horror.

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**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\
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No way in hell for a directing nomination. Even less way in hell for a screenwriting nomination.

But the movie will get several nominations for technical sound, effects, etc.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/65 "2012-05-02T05:52:10Z")

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I just saw it tonight! (Spouse works for Apple, and they had a special screening.)  
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[spoiler]  
Loved it, loved it, loved it! They managed to do what I didn’t think they could do–they made all the characters interesting, and let each one shine. Almost everybody got funny lines (though the best were from Iron Man, Thor, and the Hulk).

For anybody who watches it in the next few days, can you do me a favor if you think of it? In the Stan Lee cameo scene at the end, can you look closely at the guy he’s playing chess with? I would seriously squee if it was Ian McKellen as Magneto (last seen chronologically in the X-Man movies depowered and playing chess in the park). That would be cooler than cool. By the time I registered that it was Stan Lee, I barely got a glimpse of the other guy, but he _did_ look a bit like him. [/spoiler]

One non-spoiler: be sure to stick around all the way to the end of the credits. The little scene people were talking about takes place about halfway through them. There’s _another_ easter egg all the way at the end that’s worth waiting for. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/66 "2012-05-02T08:00:44Z")

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Huh. Apparently, **Infovore** and I were in the same theater tonight. My bf works at Apple, and got me in as his +1.

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Huh. Apparently, **Infovore** and I were in the same theater tonight. My bf works at Apple, and got me in as his +1.

Huh… so apparently the “Bear flag republic” is “Somewhere fictional.”

But seriously, I’m happy to hear it’s good, I was fearing it would fall apart.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
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> [@Infovore](#):
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> I just saw it tonight! (Spouse works for Apple, and they had a special screening.  
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> One non-spoiler: be sure to stick around all the way to the end of the credits. The little scene people were talking about takes place about halfway through them. There’s _another_ easter egg all the way at the end that’s worth waiting for. 🙂

Well, hell - I’ve seen it (it’s been playing in Australia) twice, and I’m quite sure there wasn’t an end-of-credits scene. Care to tell us what it was, in spoiler?

Oh - and I’m seriously considering going to see it for a third time, a thing I haven’t done since 1977 and Star Wars. It is very, very good.

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
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Why is it opening (did it open) overseas before it opens in the USA?

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/70 "2012-05-02T11:22:21Z")

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> [@cmkeller](#):
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> Why is it opening (did it open) overseas before it opens in the USA?

To make up for The Muppets. :mad:

😃

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> [@obfusciatrist](#):
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> No way in hell for a directing nomination. Even less way in hell for a screenwriting nomination.

Yeah, the movie was great but there really wasn’t much of a story.

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If this is better than the first Iron Man flick I’m going to love it, as I think that it, of all the individual superhero movies, is the best one, followed by The Hulk, then Iron Man 2. Captain America was disappointing and I haven’t seen Thor or Green Lantern.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/73 "2012-05-02T13:42:59Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> If this is better than the first Iron Man flick I’m going to love it, as I think that it, of all the individual superhero movies, is the best one, followed by The Hulk, then Iron Man 2. Captain America was disappointing and I haven’t seen Thor or Green Lantern.

Wow, I couldn’t disagree more with the second part of your statement. Iron-Man was the best, yes, IMHO, but Captain America was shoulder to shoulder with it, while I found Iron-Man 2 and The Hulk a bit disappointing.  
Green Lantern is DC, and it sucked.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/74 "2012-05-02T14:32:26Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Huh. Apparently, **Infovore** and I were in the same theater tonight. My bf works at Apple, and got me in as his +1.

Small world! Shoreline? 🙂

[QUOTE=galen ubal]  
Well, hell - I’ve seen it (it’s been playing in Australia) twice, and I’m quite sure there wasn’t an end-of-credits scene. Care to tell us what it was, in spoiler?  
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Remember at the end when the Hulk revived Tony by roaring at him, and he said something about wanting to go get shawarma? And then they had to go do other stuff and the comment kinda got forgotten. Well, at the very end of the credits, there’s just a shot of all of them sitting around a tiny table in a blasted-out shawarma joint, looking like crap and eating. There’s no dialog, but the camera lingers on the scene for probably 30 seconds to a minute. Their expressions are priceless. (And no, it’s not the Hulk there…it’s Banner. The Hulk would have been funnier. :D)

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
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> [@cmkeller](#):
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> Why is it opening (did it open) overseas before it opens in the USA?

I’m not sure where my spouse got this, but we were talking about it last night. Apparently it’s now SOP for at least some studios to open movies overseas so they can rake in the “OMG it’'s an American action movie!” take before the US reviews come in. (He called it “avoiding the John Carter debacle.”) I asked him why they’d do it with something like the Avengers that’s guaranteed to do well, and he said they’re doing them with all of them now.

As I said, take this with a grain of salt as I have no idea where he picked it up. But it kinda makes sense.

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Haven’t read this thread yet in case there are spoilers, but I just wanted to squee that I got my tickets today for a Saturday afternoon show (in **2D** , thankyouverymuch).

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> [@Infovore](#):
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> I’m not sure where my spouse got this, but we were talking about it last night. Apparently it’s now SOP for at least some studios to open movies overseas so they can rake in the “OMG it’'s an American action movie!” take before the US reviews come in. (He called it “avoiding the John Carter debacle.”) I asked him why they’d do it with something like the Avengers that’s guaranteed to do well, and he said they’re doing them with all of them now.
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> As I said, take this with a grain of salt as I have no idea where he picked it up. But it kinda makes sense.

I don’t think it is now SOP, though. In fact, it’s quite rare even this summer.

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I read Whedon included a lot of references to the comics for the hardcore fans. Could anyone mention some things I should be looking for?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/79 "2012-05-03T00:48:58Z")

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> [@Infovore](#):
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> Small world! Shoreline? 🙂

Yep! What did you think of the Tron cartoon?

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Yep! What did you think of the Tron cartoon?

It was…interesting. I’m not a big Tron fan, but it looked cool.

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