# Marvel's Phase III Movie List

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 28, 2014, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-phase-iii-movie-list/702790 "2014-10-28T19:30:48Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-phase-iii-movie-list/702790/21 "2014-10-28T22:16:27Z")

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> [@Palooka](#):
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> Is Captain Marvel the girl or the old power bands dudes?

“This Captain Marvel’s name is Carol Danvers," said Feige. "This film has been in the works almost as long as Doctor Strange or Guardians of the Galaxy before it came out, and one of the key things was figuring out what we wanted to do with it. Her adventures are very earthbound, but her powers are based in the cosmic realm.”

More on [Marvel.com](http://Marvel.com): [http://marvel.com/news/movies/23549/captain\_marvel\_soars\_into\_the\_marvel\_cinematic\_universe#ixzz3HTrFTRmL](http://marvel.com/news/movies/23549/captain_marvel_soars_into_the_marvel_cinematic_universe#ixzz3HTrFTRmL)

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-phase-iii-movie-list/702790/22 "2014-10-28T23:03:26Z")

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An Infinity War teaser:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/X8lUCbRi6QQ/maxresdefault.jpg "ENDGAME Marvel Media Day announcement Phase 3 Avengers Infinity Wars Release Dates") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8lUCbRi6QQ)

It suggests that Loki’s spear does actually house one of the stones.

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**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-phase-iii-movie-list/702790/23 "2014-10-28T23:11:26Z")

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> [@G0sp3l](#):
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> _Black Panther_ - I hope to xist he’s more the Christopher Priest version than the abomination foisted upon us by the accursed Reginald Hudlin.
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> Is it to early to start dream casting? Too bad Idris is already in-universe as Heimdall.

They’ve already announced Chadwick Boseman today.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-phase-iii-movie-list/702790/24 "2014-10-28T23:19:27Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> An Infinity War teaser:
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> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8lUCbRi6QQ&feature=youtu.be&t=10m2s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8lUCbRi6QQ&feature=youtu.be&t=10m2s)
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> It suggests that Loki’s spear does actually house one of the stones.

Ye gods, even in that crappy shot (cellphone footage of a screen), I got a shiver when they panned around to Thanos wearing the Infinity Glove.

I am _really_ looking forward to this!

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-phase-iii-movie-list/702790/25 "2014-10-28T23:29:45Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> An Infinity War teaser:
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> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8lUCbRi6QQ&feature=youtu.be&t=10m2s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8lUCbRi6QQ&feature=youtu.be&t=10m2s)
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> It suggests that Loki’s spear does actually house one of the stones.

That. Was. AWESOME!

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-phase-iii-movie-list/702790/26 "2014-10-29T00:23:00Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Can’t they just call them Avengers 3 and 4?

Technically it will be Avengers: Infinity War parts 1 and 2.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-phase-iii-movie-list/702790/27 "2014-10-29T00:25:53Z")

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I really need to make sure I don’t randomly die over the next few years.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-phase-iii-movie-list/702790/28 "2014-10-29T00:39:34Z")

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Merged duplicate threads.

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**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-phase-iii-movie-list/702790/29 "2014-10-29T12:22:33Z")

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Black Panther will be a megaflop.

Sorry. I know the MCU is getting too big to continue to be nothing a bunch of whities and that’s why they have to have a full up release to check the “black hero” box but BP is a boring character with no real powers to speak of. Pretty boring back story. I don’t remember him ever being a real player in any of the major crossovers.

The only way this movie gets anywhere is if they load it up with lots of gratuitous cameos.

Captain Marvel will suffer the same fate for the same reasons, just replace “black hero” box with “girl hero” box. I just don’t think most of the viewing public is really interested in a female superhero lead unless they spend alot of time being sexy etc…

With that said if Marvel continues to stay with the “all white male” formula it will end up biting them in the butt down the road.

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**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-phase-iii-movie-list/702790/30 "2014-10-29T17:21:26Z")

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> [@Cubsfan](#):
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> Black Panther will be a megaflop.
> 
> Sorry. I know the MCU is getting too big to continue to be nothing a bunch of whities and that’s why they have to have a full up release to check the “black hero” box but BP is a boring character with no real powers to speak of. Pretty boring back story. I don’t remember him ever being a real player in any of the major crossovers.
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> The only way this movie gets anywhere is if they load it up with lots of gratuitous cameos.
> 
> Captain Marvel will suffer the same fate for the same reasons, just replace “black hero” box with “girl hero” box. I just don’t think most of the viewing public is really interested in a female superhero lead unless they spend alot of time being sexy etc…
> 
> With that said if Marvel continues to stay with the “all white male” formula it will end up biting them in the butt down the road.

Black Panther is risky, but it will all be in the execution. Black Panther is a _different_ character than any other other crop of movie superheroes. An articulate, heroic, intelligent African prince? Not something the movie-viewing public has seen in a while, and it worked for Eddie Murphy.

Given the audiences I’ve seen at MCU movies lately, there’s a decent-sized black audience already. I don’t think it’s pandering; there’s a demand. His lack of stature in the comics isn’t a huge issue – they can make him exactly as important as they want in the MCU.

Likewise Captain Marvel. She’s not a hugely well-known character, but it’s a catchy name and launching between the two halves of the megablockbuster Infinity War movie will prime the audience.

It’s Marvel’s ball to fumble. There are absolutely people that want superhero movies that aren’t more handsome white men. Even as a white man, I know I do.

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**Author:** ![JesterX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JesterX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JesterX)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-phase-iii-movie-list/702790/31 "2014-10-29T17:47:32Z")

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> [@Cubsfan](#):
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> Black Panther will be a megaflop.
> 
> Sorry. I know the MCU is getting too big to continue to be nothing a bunch of whities and that’s why they have to have a full up release to check the “black hero” box but BP is a boring character with no real powers to speak of. Pretty boring back story. I don’t remember him ever being a real player in any of the major crossovers.
> 
> The only way this movie gets anywhere is if they load it up with lots of gratuitous cameos.
> 
> Captain Marvel will suffer the same fate for the same reasons, just replace “black hero” box with “girl hero” box. I just don’t think most of the viewing public is really interested in a female superhero lead unless they spend alot of time being sexy etc…
> 
> With that said if Marvel continues to stay with the “all white male” formula it will end up biting them in the butt down the road.

A lot of people felt Iron Man was a pretty bland character when they announced that movie. ESPECIALLY with Robert Downey Jr. as Stark. Look how that worked out. Black Panther has about the same powers as Captain America, who’s going into his third movie. The character is FAR from boring …[black panther wiki](http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_(comics))

Although I have no doubt his race was a factor in marvel choosing him, the bigger factor is probably his history with the avengers.

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**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-phase-iii-movie-list/702790/32 "2014-10-29T17:48:07Z")

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> [@typoink](#):
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> Black Panther is risky, but it will all be in the execution. Black Panther is a _different_ character than any other other crop of movie superheroes. An articulate, heroic, intelligent African prince? Not something the movie-viewing public has seen in a while, and it worked for Eddie Murphy.
> 
> Given the audiences I’ve seen at MCU movies lately, there’s a decent-sized black audience already. I don’t think it’s pandering; there’s a demand. His lack of stature in the comics isn’t a huge issue – they can make him exactly as important as they want in the MCU.
> 
> Likewise Captain Marvel. She’s not a hugely well-known character, but it’s a catchy name and launching between the two halves of the megablockbuster Infinity War movie will prime the audience.
> 
> It’s Marvel’s ball to fumble. There are absolutely people that want superhero movies that aren’t more handsome white men. Even as a white man, I know I do.

I’m not totally disagreeing with you, but Black Panther is so boring, with no powers. None. I just think that him being a black-ninja is not exciting enough to carry a movie. I feel like this has been tried once before with Daredevil. Yeah, he was blind and had sonar or whatever, but ultimately he was just a ninja type character. Not interesting on screen, and that was before all the high quality super hero movies were released. Now that movie would flop even harder than it did back when it came out.

Black Panther seems to be “the choice” strictly because he’s a black character. Granted, there aren’t alot of interesting black Marvel [heroes](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_black_superheroes#Marvel_Comics). Luke Cage? Meh, Bishop maybe. He’s cool but Xmen. Dethlok? He was kinda cool. I’d rather see a Nick Fury origin movie than Black Panther. I think most of the world would too for that matter.

Based on the release timelines I have to believe that Captain Marvel will be introduced in Infinity War, her stand alone movie, then play a big part in the Infinity War part 2. I’m sure we’ll be bombarded with a massive GIRL POWER campaign as that movie approaches.

I think the order of “flopness magnitude” will be: 1) BP, 2) Doc S 3) Cap Marvel.

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**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-phase-iii-movie-list/702790/33 "2014-10-29T17:50:34Z")

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> [@JesterX](#):
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> A lot of people felt Iron Man was a pretty bland character when they announced that movie. ESPECIALLY with Robert Downey Jr. as Stark. Look how that worked out. Black Panther has about the same powers as Captain America, who’s going into his third movie. The character is FAR from boring …[black panther wiki](http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_(comics))

> [@](#):
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> The title “Black Panther” is a rank of office, chieftain of the Wakandan Panther Clan. As chieftain, the Panther is entitled to eat a special Heart-Shaped Herb which, in addition to his mystical connection with the Wakandan Panther God, grants him superhumanly acute senses and increases his strength, speed, stamina, reflexes, and agility to Olympic-levels. He has since lost this connection and forged a new one with another unknown Panther deity, granting him augmented physical attributes as well as a resistance to magic.[54] His senses are so powerful that he can pick up a prey’s scent and memorize tens of thousands of individual ones. Following his war with Doom, T’Challa loses his enhanced abilities only to once again establish a connection with the Panther God.[57]

Meh…

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**Author:** ![JesterX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JesterX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JesterX)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-phase-iii-movie-list/702790/34 "2014-10-29T17:51:39Z")

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> [@typoink](#):
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> Likewise Captain Marvel. She’s not a hugely well-known character, but it’s a catchy name and launching between the two halves of the megablockbuster Infinity War movie will prime the audience.

I actually remember the Carol Danvers character being MS. Marvel, not “captain”. I had a couple of her comics in my collection. Very cool costume. She later lost her powers to Rogue.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-phase-iii-movie-list/702790/35 "2014-10-29T18:06:50Z")

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> [@Cubsfan](#):
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> I’m not totally disagreeing with you, but Black Panther is so boring, with no powers. None. I just think that him being a black-ninja is not exciting enough to carry a movie. I feel like this has been tried once before with Daredevil. Yeah, he was blind and had sonar or whatever, but ultimately he was just a ninja type character. Not interesting on screen, and that was before all the high quality super hero movies were released. Now that movie would flop even harder than it did back when it came out.
> 
> Black Panther seems to be “the choice” strictly because he’s a black character. Granted, there aren’t alot of interesting black Marvel [heroes](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_black_superheroes#Marvel_Comics). Luke Cage? Meh, Bishop maybe. He’s cool but Xmen. Dethlok? He was kinda cool. I’d rather see a Nick Fury origin movie than Black Panther. I think most of the world would too for that matter.
> 
> Based on the release timelines I have to believe that Captain Marvel will be introduced in Infinity War, her stand alone movie, then play a big part in the Infinity War part 2. I’m sure we’ll be bombarded with a massive GIRL POWER campaign as that movie approaches.
> 
> I think the order of “flopness magnitude” will be: 1) BP, 2) Doc S 3) Cap Marvel.

Dethlok already exists in the MCU, courtesy of the Agents of SHIELD show.

So far, Marvel has hit all of their movies since Iron Man out the park. Ant Man is likely to be a flop, but that’s based on having 3 directors and five million writers more than anything else. They’ve managed to bring interesting things to the table each go-round, so I’m willing to believe that a relatively boring comic character can make an interesting movie character.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-phase-iii-movie-list/702790/36 "2014-10-29T18:34:34Z")

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_Antman_ will make a ton of money. Not _GotG_ money, but a ton anyway. I have faith. If they hire Frumious Bandersnatch to play _Dr. Strange_, then that one will make a ton as well. The only one I’m even slightly leery of is _Captain Marvel_, and it has a hammock position that pretty much insures that it will at least turn a little profit.

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**Author:** ![JesterX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JesterX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JesterX)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-phase-iii-movie-list/702790/37 "2014-10-29T18:48:48Z")

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> [@Cubsfan](#):
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> Meh…

Well clearly, he has more powers than captain America.

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**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-phase-iii-movie-list/702790/38 "2014-10-29T18:50:35Z")

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> [@JesterX](#):
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> Well clearly, he has more powers than captain America.

How do you figure?

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-phase-iii-movie-list/702790/39 "2014-10-29T19:45:12Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> _Antman_ will make a ton of money. Not _GotG_ money, but a ton anyway. I have faith. If they hire Frumious Bandersnatch to play _Dr. Strange_, then that one will make a ton as well. The only one I’m even slightly leery of is _Captain Marvel_, and it has a hammock position that pretty much insures that it will at least turn a little profit.

I meant flop in the sense of being a shitty movie, not in the financial sense.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-phase-iii-movie-list/702790/40 "2014-10-29T20:05:02Z")

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I think they just updated the list of movies:

[List of Phase 3 Marvel Movies](https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8363056384/hDF06098A/).

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