# Marxism on the sdmb, How To Overthrow A Government

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marxism-on-the-sdmb-how-to-overthrow-a-government/470872>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 3, 2008, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marxism-on-the-sdmb-how-to-overthrow-a-government/470872 "2008-11-03T15:59:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marxism-on-the-sdmb-how-to-overthrow-a-government/470872/41 "2008-11-03T19:07:03Z")

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> [@Syntropy](#):
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> Okay I’m new here, so maybe I’m missing the reason y’all are taking focusonz seriously. Isn’t it satire? I thought it was hilarious.

If focusonz is whooshing us, he’s done a pretty remarkable job of staying in character since he joined us. If it really is a parody I’d be disappointed because it’s not that well done. What a lot of effort for such a mediocre result.

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**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marxism-on-the-sdmb-how-to-overthrow-a-government/470872/42 "2008-11-03T19:36:52Z")

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Methinks **focusonz** ’s had too much Focusyn…

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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marxism-on-the-sdmb-how-to-overthrow-a-government/470872/43 "2008-11-03T19:50:48Z")

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> [@Eyer8](#):
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> Actually, I am pretty sure **focusonz** is serious. Try doing a search of his posting history.

I took some time to do so, thank you. Interesting. But I’m confused. In a thread he started in April called I’m Mad as Hell, he was espousing socialism by demanding that all us city dwellers have our vehicles removed by the government and be forced to use mass transit for the greater good, then funneling the tax revenue elsewhere. Today he’s acting as though government redistribution is the most evil thing on the planet. Focusonz, I can’t tell, are you for or against socialism?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marxism-on-the-sdmb-how-to-overthrow-a-government/470872/44 "2008-11-03T19:52:20Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Oh, so you \*are \*a [Marxist](http://www.philanthromedia.org/archives/GrouchoMarx.jpg)!!

Hugh betcha! And I grab this opportunity to recommend Harpo’s _Harpo Speaks_ for a trip with a marvelously decent and humane mind. Today, in Heaven, he just put a whoopee cushion under Molly Ivin’s chair.

And Molly? This one’s for you! Rest well, dear heart. We _won’t_ rest. We promise.

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marxism-on-the-sdmb-how-to-overthrow-a-government/470872/45 "2008-11-03T19:57:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
The collective will of the SDMB, cubed, couldn’t overthrow a high school glee club, so I’m not sure what the OP’s on about.  
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Okay, maybe not the glee club but the chess club is goin’ _down_

Damn, all right, so not the chess club either.

But the stage crew for the ninth grade musical? Toast, baby. Tremble before us.

Were we not supposed to chuckle at the OP? Because if it wasn’t a send-up…damn. Just DAMN.

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**Author:** ![UnwrittenNocturne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/6de8d8/32.png) [@UnwrittenNocturne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwrittenNocturne)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marxism-on-the-sdmb-how-to-overthrow-a-government/470872/46 "2008-11-03T20:08:14Z")

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Oh dear. **TVeblen** , I must hereby give you notice that due to your ideological impurity in even admitting the existence of the Ninth Grade Musical I must now be off to form the People’s Front of the SDMB. We will not tolerate such heresies!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marxism-on-the-sdmb-how-to-overthrow-a-government/470872/47 "2008-11-03T20:12:46Z")

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Do you mean the People’s Revolutionary Front for the SDMB (Trotskyist) or the \* menshivik\* revisionist running dogs of the People’s Front for the SDMB?

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**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marxism-on-the-sdmb-how-to-overthrow-a-government/470872/48 "2008-11-03T20:30:40Z")

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Well, _I’m_ convinced.

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**Author:** ![Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tastes_of_chocolate/32/3232_2.png) [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tastes_of_Chocolate)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marxism-on-the-sdmb-how-to-overthrow-a-government/470872/49 "2008-11-03T20:43:02Z")

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Let me see if I have this right.

> [@](#):
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> Let the truth be known that the following cadre of posters  
> Elucidator , Gozu , MrDibble , Der Trihs, gonzomax, redfury
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> Are at worst Marxists intent on the overthrow of the American capitalistic system and the democracy on which it is founded. Or at the very least are Marxist intending to usurp the Democrat party and turn it to their own ends as the American Marxist party

So the above listed defendents are charged with plotting to overthrown American capitalism, allowing China to buy the US at bargan basement pricing. The mechanism for this is through a nefarious plan involving photovotaic solar cells. Has anyone seen the underwear gnomes around? They must be involved in this.

Wait!! What happened to blaming everything on OPEC and big oil?

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marxism-on-the-sdmb-how-to-overthrow-a-government/470872/50 "2008-11-03T20:43:12Z")

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> [@focusonz](#):
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> "Remember, I’m pulling for you. We’re all in this together!

OK, I admit I did not read all of your OP, or your follow up post, or any of your cites. But, I can’t help but notice that you’re quoting the immortal philosopher [Red Green](http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Red_Green_Show) here. So, you’re just pulling our leg here, right?

Keep your stick on the ice.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marxism-on-the-sdmb-how-to-overthrow-a-government/470872/51 "2008-11-03T21:26:04Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Do you mean the People’s Revolutionary Front for the SDMB (Trotskyist) or the \* menshivik\* revisionist running dogs of the People’s Front for the SDMB?

Splitters!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marxism-on-the-sdmb-how-to-overthrow-a-government/470872/52 "2008-11-03T21:32:21Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Splitters!

Straight to The Wall! We can spare the SDMB Anarcho-Syndicalists, I think. For now.

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**Author:** ![focusonz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9dc877/32.png) [@focusonz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/focusonz)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marxism-on-the-sdmb-how-to-overthrow-a-government/470872/53 "2008-11-03T21:33:41Z")

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Obama gets to every bodies money without raising taxes by passing  
Carbon Cap & Trade legislation plus Obama Spending = bankruptcy for 45M US Households

> **[AGW legislation plus Obama Spending = bankruptcy for 45M US Households](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=470526)**
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics\_of\_global\_warming The synopsis of the legislation Details how money is collected! Does not detail how money is spent! Does not reduce requirements for environmental impact statements. Nukes and wind Does...

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**Author:** ![UnwrittenNocturne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/6de8d8/32.png) [@UnwrittenNocturne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwrittenNocturne)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marxism-on-the-sdmb-how-to-overthrow-a-government/470872/54 "2008-11-03T22:07:04Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Straight to The Wall! We can spare the SDMB Anarcho-Syndicalists, I think. For now.

Does this mean I don’t have to put myself up against the wall?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marxism-on-the-sdmb-how-to-overthrow-a-government/470872/55 "2008-11-03T22:12:20Z")

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Well, we ought to keep at least one for the museum.

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**Author:** ![wmfellows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c2a13f/32.png) [@wmfellows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wmfellows)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marxism-on-the-sdmb-how-to-overthrow-a-government/470872/56 "2008-11-03T22:18:04Z")

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> [@focusonz](#):
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> Obama gets to every bodies money without raising taxes by passing  
> Carbon Cap & Trade legislation plus Obama Spending = bankruptcy for 45M US Households  
> [AGW legislation plus Obama Spending = bankruptcy for 45M US Households - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=470526)

I confess that this response to the thread makes it hard not to think that this is a bit of performance art.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marxism-on-the-sdmb-how-to-overthrow-a-government/470872/57 "2008-11-03T22:36:48Z")

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> [@Revenant\_Threshold](#):
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> Also I like the idea that **Der Trihs** of all people is apparently some kind of demagogue, holding great sway over the SDMB and its innocent, naive posters.

WHAT ! How DARE you defy your MAXIMUM LEADER ! !

OBEY ! !

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marxism-on-the-sdmb-how-to-overthrow-a-government/470872/58 "2008-11-03T22:56:12Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Your big fonts scare me.

He is biting my style, yes. 😃

Oh, **focusonz**? 😛

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marxism-on-the-sdmb-how-to-overthrow-a-government/470872/59 "2008-11-03T22:58:46Z")

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> [@focusonz](#):
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> Obama gets to every bodies money without raising taxes by passing

You said you were done.

Also, I’ve had some difficulty buying weed around here lately, but you obviously have no shortage, so please kick a little of the green stuff my way, wouldja?

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marxism-on-the-sdmb-how-to-overthrow-a-government/470872/60 "2008-11-03T22:59:03Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> The collective will of the SDMB, cubed, couldn’t overthrow a high school glee club…

Curse their youthful exuberance!

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