# Mary Ann, Bailey Quarters, and the rest: when the sidekick is hotter than the lead

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 22, 2006, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-ann-bailey-quarters-and-the-rest-when-the-sidekick-is-hotter-than-the-lead/369794 "2006-08-22T19:46:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-ann-bailey-quarters-and-the-rest-when-the-sidekick-is-hotter-than-the-lead/369794/21 "2006-08-23T00:17:36Z")

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Every female on _Buffy_ was hotter than Buffy. Willow, Cordy, Tara, Anya, Joyce, Dawn, Faith, Darla, Drusilla…even Amy the Rat was better looking than the lead actress.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-ann-bailey-quarters-and-the-rest-when-the-sidekick-is-hotter-than-the-lead/369794/22 "2006-08-23T00:31:12Z")

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[QUOTE=silenus]  
…even Amy the Rat was better looking than the lead actress.  
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As Amy, I’d tend to agree with you. As the rat, not so much.

And let’s not forget _Angel_. Fred and Lilah were both hotter than Cordelia, and in completely different ways.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-ann-bailey-quarters-and-the-rest-when-the-sidekick-is-hotter-than-the-lead/369794/23 "2006-08-23T00:31:14Z")

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Anytime, any place, always and forever… Hyde over Kelso.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-ann-bailey-quarters-and-the-rest-when-the-sidekick-is-hotter-than-the-lead/369794/24 "2006-08-23T00:47:01Z")

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Numb3rs: give me the math geek, Charlie Eppes, over his FBI agent brother Don any day.

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**Author:** ![Clockwork\_And\_Candy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b782af/32.png) [@Clockwork\_And\_Candy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clockwork_And_Candy)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-ann-bailey-quarters-and-the-rest-when-the-sidekick-is-hotter-than-the-lead/369794/25 "2006-08-23T01:02:20Z")

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**Electra Woman and Dyna Girl**.

Judy Strangis was _so_ much more attractive than Deidre Hall.

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**Author:** ![parrot\_recipes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@parrot\_recipes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/parrot_recipes)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-ann-bailey-quarters-and-the-rest-when-the-sidekick-is-hotter-than-the-lead/369794/26 "2006-08-23T01:20:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Hilarity N. Suze]  
Loni Anderson and Tina Louise were both playing the archetypal femme fatale (with a twist in Anderson’s case of her being really very smart),  
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On the show, of course, not real life..

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**Author:** ![Nic2004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@Nic2004](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nic2004)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-ann-bailey-quarters-and-the-rest-when-the-sidekick-is-hotter-than-the-lead/369794/27 "2006-08-23T01:58:53Z")

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[QUOTE=faithfool]  
Anytime, any place, always and forever… Hyde over Kelso.  
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**Ms.Nic** said for me to heartily second this vote!

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**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-ann-bailey-quarters-and-the-rest-when-the-sidekick-is-hotter-than-the-lead/369794/28 "2006-08-23T01:59:24Z")

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I wonder: am I the only person who thought that Linda Cardellini as Velma was much sexier than Sarah Michelle Gellar as Daphe in Scooby Doo? Or maybe I just have a fetish for pretty girls who wear sweaters.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-ann-bailey-quarters-and-the-rest-when-the-sidekick-is-hotter-than-the-lead/369794/29 "2006-08-23T02:04:22Z")

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[QUOTE=furryman]  
I wonder: am I the only person who thought that Linda Cardellini as Velma was much sexier than Sarah Michelle Gellar as Daphe in Scooby Doo? Or maybe I just have a fetish for pretty girls who wear sweaters.  
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Oh, Lord no. You’re NOT the only one.

While I won’t join in the mockfestof SMG, she was much better looking during the early Buffy years, when she still ate the occasional cheeseburger and had boobs. Linda Cardellini, though…yum. Definite addition to the harem when I am God-King.

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**Author:** ![Nic2004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@Nic2004](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nic2004)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-ann-bailey-quarters-and-the-rest-when-the-sidekick-is-hotter-than-the-lead/369794/30 "2006-08-23T02:21:26Z")

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[QUOTE=simster]  
I was in a hurry, and Inara’s name escaped me, as did the proper spelling of Kaylee… I was trying to point out what Lightnin’ said later.

There was an episode entitled “Our Own Mrs Robinson”… or a quote, or something…

anyway…

What lighnin’ said.  
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Yeah, see Kaylee is just the type girl I have always fallen for. She is a natural beauty that looks good when she wakes up in the morning, dressed up for a special occasion or with her hair pulled back and hands covered in grease from working on her own car. I prefer a woman in a baseball cap with hair in a ponytail and sweatshirt sleeves pulled up to a sequined gown any day. Women who come across as real and not a plastic Barbie are the most attractive to me. Like **Ms.Nic** ; a lover, a partner and a friend.

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**Author:** ![Ronald\_C.Semone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cc9497/32.png) [@Ronald\_C.Semone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ronald_C.Semone)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-ann-bailey-quarters-and-the-rest-when-the-sidekick-is-hotter-than-the-lead/369794/31 "2006-08-23T02:27:43Z")

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I always preferred Betty to Veronica in the old Archie comic books.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-ann-bailey-quarters-and-the-rest-when-the-sidekick-is-hotter-than-the-lead/369794/32 "2006-08-23T02:41:06Z")

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Janet was better looking that Crissy.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-ann-bailey-quarters-and-the-rest-when-the-sidekick-is-hotter-than-the-lead/369794/33 "2006-08-23T02:43:46Z")

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> [@](#):
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> who denies that 2nd banana Ilia Kuriakin (David McCallum) was the sexiest Man From UNCLE?

But in this case, that was clearly the intent; Robert Vaughn was supposed to be the lead and David McCallum was supposed to be his good looking co-star.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-ann-bailey-quarters-and-the-rest-when-the-sidekick-is-hotter-than-the-lead/369794/34 "2006-08-23T03:03:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Little Nemo]  
Janet was better looking that Crissy.  
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Man, I am good with all of these until this post.  
I don’t get it, I did think Crissy was a little over rated but [Joyce DeWitt](http://images.google.com/images?q=Joyce+DeWitt&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images) had neither a great body or cute face, did she?  
[Jenilee Harrison](http://images.google.com/images?q=Jenilee+Harrison&btnG=Search+Images) was probably the cutest regular on the show.

I definitely preferred Mary Ann to Ginger and Bailey to Jennifer.  
I only watch the first season or two of Buffy and only a few episodes, I thought all 3 girls were smoking hot in their own ways, but Willow was the cutest by far. I like Cute. 😃

Here is a weird one, I thought Allyce Beasley was cuter than Cybill Shepherd on [Moonlighting](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088571/).

In [Bewitch](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057733/) I thought the actress that played Serena was both hotter and cuter than Samantha Stephens. 😉

Jim

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**Author:** ![Nic2004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@Nic2004](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nic2004)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-ann-bailey-quarters-and-the-rest-when-the-sidekick-is-hotter-than-the-lead/369794/35 "2006-08-23T03:07:37Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
In [Bewitch](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057733/) I thought the actress that played Serena was both hotter and cuter than Samantha Stephens. 😉

Jim  
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Oh man, you have the same problem I have in being attracted to the one that’s nothing but trouble. The more dangerous, the more irresistible. 😉

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-ann-bailey-quarters-and-the-rest-when-the-sidekick-is-hotter-than-the-lead/369794/36 "2006-08-23T03:16:54Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
Man, I am good with all of these until this post.  
I don’t get it, I did think Crissy was a little over rated but [Joyce DeWitt](http://images.google.com/images?q=Joyce+DeWitt&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images) had neither a great body or cute face, did she?

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MY GOD, YES!!!

[QUOTE=What Exit?]

[Jenilee Harrison](http://images.google.com/images?q=Jenilee+Harrison&btnG=Search+Images) was probably the cutest regular on the show.

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Mmmmmmaybe.

[QUOTE=What Exit?]

Here is a weird one, I thought Allyce Beasley was cuter than Cybill Shepherd on [Moonlighting](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088571/).

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Yep… that’s weird, all right.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-ann-bailey-quarters-and-the-rest-when-the-sidekick-is-hotter-than-the-lead/369794/37 "2006-08-23T03:27:59Z")

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[QUOTE=FriarTed]  
MY GOD, YES!!!  
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I am confused, are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?

> [@](#):
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> Yep… that’s weird, all right.

I know, its not that I thought Allyce Beasley was especially cute, it was more that I do not find Cybill Shepherd particularly attractive and she has a very low cuteness rating on my scale.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-ann-bailey-quarters-and-the-rest-when-the-sidekick-is-hotter-than-the-lead/369794/38 "2006-08-23T03:34:16Z")

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Dawns Wells was [Miss Nevada in 1960 and competed in the Miss America pageant.](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0920171/bio) It’s not like the producers had to smear vaseline on the lens to make her look good.

Mary Richards might have had more all-American-girl good looks, but I always preferred Rhoda.

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**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-ann-bailey-quarters-and-the-rest-when-the-sidekick-is-hotter-than-the-lead/369794/39 "2006-08-23T03:36:07Z")

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[QUOTE=simster]  
Kaily vs Ms Robinson.  
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Mrs. Robinson all the way! I would have dropped her daughter in a heartbeat for a shot at that…

I can’t agree with the rest of you on _Buffy_. I guess SMG just does it for me. :o

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**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-ann-bailey-quarters-and-the-rest-when-the-sidekick-is-hotter-than-the-lead/369794/40 "2006-08-23T05:05:38Z")

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In the Breakfast Club, I prefer Ally Sheedy\* to Molly Ringwald (who isn’t too bad herself).

Before or after the makeover.

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