# Mary Kay and Vili, May 20, 2005

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-kay-and-vili-may-20-2005/304829>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 21, 2005, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-kay-and-vili-may-20-2005/304829 "2005-05-21T01:00:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-kay-and-vili-may-20-2005/304829/1 "2005-05-21T01:00:01Z")

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[Well, they’re married.](http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/05/20/teacher.sex.wedding.ap/index.html)

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-kay-and-vili-may-20-2005/304829/2 "2005-05-21T01:14:25Z")

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Ewww.

I can’t believe Entertainment Tonight wanted to air the nuptials. This is a rapist marrying her victim, not some sort of May-December true love romance.

Ick ick ick. I feel sorry for their daughters.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-kay-and-vili-may-20-2005/304829/3 "2005-05-21T02:08:08Z")

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[Looks like their registry at Wedding Channel is still up.](http://registry.weddingchannel.com/search_purchase/guest_view.asp?wauid=564313940#giftRegistries)

Let’s see how they cleaned up, shall we?

Oh, and obligatory eeeeeeeewwwww.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-kay-and-vili-may-20-2005/304829/4 "2005-05-21T02:15:35Z")

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So, have the folks in Vegas started betting on how long it will last?

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**Author:** ![La\_Llorona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@La\_Llorona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/La_Llorona)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-kay-and-vili-may-20-2005/304829/5 "2005-05-21T02:26:23Z")

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Ugh. I was channel-surfing when I chanced upon some awful interview with those two.

Interviewer: How do you think people will view your unconventional relationship?

_Unconventional relationship!_

Words fail me.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-kay-and-vili-may-20-2005/304829/6 "2005-05-21T02:53:18Z")

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I’m glad the wedding was held at a winery.

If I had been a guest I know I would have had to get very drunk.

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**Author:** ![Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stark_Raven_Mad)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-kay-and-vili-may-20-2005/304829/7 "2005-05-21T02:57:45Z")

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I had a crush on _my_ teacher in sixth grade, and she never asked to bear my children. Damn. ☹

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**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-kay-and-vili-may-20-2005/304829/8 "2005-05-21T03:03:53Z")

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**ivylass.** This is a female statutory rapist marrying her all-too willing male victim, and it is a bizarre May-December true love romance. “Unconventional” just about sums it up.

You know who I feel sorry for? Their daughters’ teachers.

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**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-kay-and-vili-may-20-2005/304829/9 "2005-05-21T03:17:13Z")

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> [@Stark Raven Mad](#):
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> I had a crush on _my_ teacher in sixth grade, and she never asked to bear my children. Damn. ☹

I’m with you. Had my junior high algebra teacher ever given me the ‘come hither’ look, I do believe I’d have left a vapor trail. Sadly, such was only the fuel of fantasy for my hormone enriched teen engine. 😉

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-kay-and-vili-may-20-2005/304829/10 "2005-05-21T04:47:42Z")

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[Lessee…](http://ww2.williams-sonoma.com/reg/registrylist.cfm?src=regsregistrylist&sid=WSE110UEFFJJH0BHSZ63BMZIHTXLCCH3200505202155&ftest=1&cmreferrer=http%253A%252F%252Fww2%252Ewilliams%252Dsonoma%252Ecom%252Freg%252Fguestsignin%252Ecfm%253Fsid%253DWSE110UEFFJJH0BHSZ63BMZIHTXLCCH3200505202155%2526regid%253D1376497%2526refurl%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fregistry%25252Eweddingchannel%25252Ecom%25252Fsearch%25255Fpurchase%25252Fguest%25255Fview%25252Easp%25253Fregistry%25255Fuid%25253D564313940%2526cm%25255Fven%253DWedCh%2526cm%25255Fpla%253DWCSearchResults%2526cm%25255Fite%253DGiftGiver%2526cm%25255Fcat%253DRegistry%2526bnrid%253D3210001&cm%5Fven=WedCh&cm%5Fpla=WCSearchResults&cm%5Fite=GiftGiver&cm%5Fcat=Registry&flash=on)They want dinner service for THIRTY. Also a lot of cookie-, pizza- and ice-cream-related stuff.

I’m betting Mary Kay picked out the heart-shaped-pancake pan. And probably the maple rolling pin. Look out, Vili.

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-kay-and-vili-may-20-2005/304829/11 "2005-05-21T11:17:06Z")

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A [lava mortar & pestle](http://ww2.williams-sonoma.com/cat/pip.cfm?src=regsregistrylist&skus=3983806&fromrgl=1&cmsrc=rgl&cat=68)?!?!? How do I manage to cook without one of those?? :rolleyes:

This whole affair \<snerk\> creeps me out…

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-kay-and-vili-may-20-2005/304829/12 "2005-05-21T11:37:08Z")

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> [@Askia](#):
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> **ivylass.** This is a female statutory rapist marrying her all-too willing male victim, and it is a bizarre May-December true love romance. “Unconventional” just about sums it up.

I can’t consider it willing when the boy was only 13. If this had been a 38-year-old male teacher and a 13-year-old female student, would you still call it statutory rape?

She’s a sex offender. Period. I can only imagine how Thanksgiving dinners will be over at his mother’s house. :eek:

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-kay-and-vili-may-20-2005/304829/13 "2005-05-21T14:40:37Z")

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The whole situation makes me want to throw up. She’s a predator who should be behind bars, not interviewed on talk shows.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-kay-and-vili-may-20-2005/304829/14 "2005-05-21T14:45:35Z")

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It is just me or does Vili appear to have aged more than his 21 years would suggest?

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**Author:** ![velvetjones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/5f9b8f/32.png) [@velvetjones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velvetjones)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-kay-and-vili-may-20-2005/304829/15 "2005-05-21T14:50:13Z")

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I thought that too. He just looks older than 22.

I think things are going to look remarkably different when he’s 42 and she’s 63 but that’s just me.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-kay-and-vili-may-20-2005/304829/16 "2005-05-21T16:09:03Z")

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> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> A [lava mortar & pestle](http://ww2.williams-sonoma.com/cat/pip.cfm?src=regsregistrylist&skus=3983806&fromrgl=1&cmsrc=rgl&cat=68)?!?!? How do I manage to cook without one of those?? :rolleyes:
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> This whole affair \<snerk\> creeps me out…

[$235 for a CHEESE SERVING SET???](http://www.tiffany.com/registry/registry_pur.asp?RegistryID=401319) Damn, that cheese better be the BEST tasting cheese ever. And look above it-$325 for a salt and pepper shaker set?

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**Author:** ![missbunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@missbunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missbunny)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-kay-and-vili-may-20-2005/304829/17 "2005-05-21T16:13:52Z")

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> [@velvetjones](#):
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> I think things are going to look remarkably different when he’s 42 and she’s 63 but that’s just me.

Even when she’s 48 and he’s 27. I give them 5 years tops. Unrequited love, when you can pine long-distance for someone, is a lot different that living together full time. The romantic notions of “they’re all against us but I’ll wait for you!” will fade when they start arguing over who’s going to clean the toilet this week.

Wonder how they are planning to support themselves, since he’s a high-school dropout and she is virtually unemployable.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-kay-and-vili-may-20-2005/304829/18 "2005-05-21T18:36:40Z")

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> [@missbunny](#):
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> Wonder how they are planning to support themselves, since he’s a high-school dropout and she is virtually unemployable.

I’m sure they’ll sell pictures of their new abode to the tabloids, and Lifetime will pay for their story to make a Movie of the Week.

Ick ick ick.

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**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-kay-and-vili-may-20-2005/304829/19 "2005-05-21T18:39:35Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> If this had been a 38-year-old male teacher and a 13-year-old female student, would you still call it statutory rape?

If this had been a 38-year-old male teacher who slept with a 13-year-old student (and subsequently knocked her up twice), people would be calling for a public castration. The fact that the gender roles are reversed somehow makes it seem “romantic.” (not my words, but that’s what _some_ people think.)

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2005, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-kay-and-vili-may-20-2005/304829/20 "2005-05-21T18:58:12Z")

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I don’t get it. He may have been a 13-year-old boy with raging hormones, but that doesn’t make it “sweet” or “romantic.” She was the adult, she should have known better. I blame her for screwing him up so badly he thinks he’s in love with her.

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