# Mary Richards - did she really make it after all? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [August 9, 2023, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-richards-did-she-really-make-it-after-all/988319 "2023-08-09T15:24:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-richards-did-she-really-make-it-after-all/988319/41 "2023-08-10T19:55:02Z")
Didn’t she wake up in a twin-bed next to Rob Petrie or am I thinking of a different show made by MTM that also aired on Saturday nights? No matter, all three shows (and we) are part of the [Tommy Westphall / St. Elswhere-verse](https://thetommywestphall.wordpress.com/the-master-list/) ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-richards-did-she-really-make-it-after-all/988319/42 "2023-08-10T19:56:17Z")
After putting him through medical school, she expected they would get married. His reply was “Why rush things?” That’s when she upped and moved to Minneapolis. When he followed her there and tried to win her back, he said “Mary, I … love you.” Her reply was “I just noticed you don’t say that very well.” “So … that’s it, then?” “I think so. Good bye, [whatever his name was].” So in the end, she dumped him. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-richards-did-she-really-make-it-after-all/988319/43 "2023-08-10T19:59:36Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > Didn’t she wake up in a twin-bed next to Rob Petrie or am I thinking of a different show made by MTM that also aired on Saturday nights? She did do a special with Dick van Dyke, where they were (to the best of my recollection) casting the wife for his new sitcom, and she didn’t get the part. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-richards-did-she-really-make-it-after-all/988319/44 "2023-08-10T20:29:49Z")
Glad to hear it. I just watched most of the first episode again, and I didn’t remember anything about the 2nd half of the show (53 years later). His name was Bill. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-richards-did-she-really-make-it-after-all/988319/45 "2023-08-10T20:34:38Z")
Well thanks guys for sending me down a Rhoda rabbit hole. How depressing. 1. So apparently Joe and Rhodas divorce is what broke the show. I agree they married too quickly, but I don’t blame viewers. Life in the 70’s is depressing enough without bringing it into your living room no matter how realistic. 2. I forgot “Carlton the Doorman” was a Rhoda thing. I also didn’t know there was an unpicked up animated Carlton spinoff pilot. Also…this played on the radio?? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ruefrPXqhDg/maxresdefault.jpg ""Who Is It ?" - Carlton The Doorman (Lorenzo Music)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruefrPXqhDg) ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-richards-did-she-really-make-it-after-all/988319/46 "2023-08-10T21:36:43Z")
Another video An SNL cold open: Ed Asner as Lou Grant hiring a mercenary team to rescue his old pal Mary Richards from syndication: Rich Hall/Mercenary 1: Is it true what they say about her? Asner: What? Mercenary 1: That she could turn the world on with her smile? Asner: (nodding) Yes she could Jim Belushi/Mercenary 2: And could she really take a nothing day and suddenly make it all seem worthwhile? Asner: No of course not! Don’t be stupid! (Julia Lewis-Dreyfus is Rhoda) [SNL Cold Open with Ed Asner](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC9VV6sgZj8) ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-richards-did-she-really-make-it-after-all/988319/47 "2023-08-10T21:51:42Z")
I find this interesting. In Season 1 the lyrics contained: > You **might** just make it after all The lyrics were changed for seasons 2 though 7: > You’re **gonna** make it after all Guess she got more confident after Season 1. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-richards-did-she-really-make-it-after-all/988319/48 "2023-08-11T00:24:03Z")
Watching _ **Rhoda** _ was like watching a Kosher chick flick. Julie Kavner was the best part of the series. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mary-richards-did-she-really-make-it-after-all/988319.md?page=2)