# Masked man attacks people in 7-11 with hatchet. Armed customer saves everybody.
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [March 14, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987 "2016-03-14T17:33:20Z")
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### Author:  [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/1 "2016-03-14T17:33:20Z")
Geez, It’s getting to the point that a man can’t even enjoy his morning coffee anymore. 😉 This guy sure saved the day. He should get free coffee at that 7-11 for a long time.
btw several other sources reported it was a hatchet. The clerk wouldn’t have survived a blow from an axe.
[http://www.detroitnewstime.com/regional/125833-customer-with-concealed-carry-permit-fatally-shoots-man-at-7-eleven.html](http://www.detroitnewstime.com/regional/125833-customer-with-concealed-carry-permit-fatally-shoots-man-at-7-eleven.html)
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> An early morning at a Washington 7-Eleven almost turned tragic when a masked man with an ax came charging through the door and started swinging without a word.
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> But just as he managed to slice the clerk in the stomach, a 60-year-old customer who was having his regular cup of coffee pulled out his gun and shot the attacker dead.
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> Kuldeep Singh believes he would have died had it not been for his regular customer, who had a concealed carry permit for his pistol and is being called a hero by police.
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### Author:  [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/2 "2016-03-14T17:39:50Z")
(Removed comment as too snarky for MPSIMS)
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### Author:  [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/3 "2016-03-14T17:50:37Z")
> [@Bricker](#):
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> (Removed comment as too snarky for MPSIMS)
Bet it was far less snarky than what I’m imagining.😃
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### Author:  [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/4 "2016-03-14T18:08:31Z")
I’m just wondering if my axe body spray stock went up or down…
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### Author:  [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/5 "2016-03-14T18:42:31Z")
Only because I’m sure that this is headed outside of MPSIMS based on the comment/non-comments already:
Many/most sane citizens are aware that it is in fact possible for an armed person to prevent a crime, save a life, or what have you. However, individual anecdotes are not really relevant in building responsible public policy that works for all citizens. Yes, it’s possible that in an alternate universe where no one was allowed to carry guns that dude with the axe might have killed the clerk, and maybe someone else as well. That doesn’t mean that this is somehow evidence that it is good for American citizens in general for the citizenry to be armed.
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### Author:  [@dracoi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dracoi)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/6 "2016-03-14T18:54:34Z")
Absolutely. The lack of proper regulation over axes is a travesty. You can kill a hundred people without resharpening and most of us will never need one to chop down a tree.
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### Author:  [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/7 "2016-03-14T18:56:04Z")
> [@Eonwe](#):
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> Only because I’m sure that this is headed outside of MPSIMS based on the comment/non-comments already:
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> Many/most sane citizens are aware that it is in fact possible for an armed person to prevent a crime, save a life, or what have you. However, individual anecdotes are not really relevant in building responsible public policy that works for all citizens. Yes, it’s possible that in an alternate universe where no one was allowed to carry guns that dude with the axe might have killed the clerk, and maybe someone else as well. That doesn’t mean that this is somehow evidence that it is good for American citizens in general for the citizenry to be armed.
Such alternate universes (also known as countries) do exist. As such, it’s possible to compare homicide rates and see if there’s any meaningful difference between countries where the populace is armed and unarmed.
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### Author:  [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/8 "2016-03-14T18:59:19Z")
> [@dracoi](#):
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> Absolutely. The lack of proper regulation over axes is a travesty. You can kill a hundred people without resharpening and most of us will never need one to chop down a tree.
[Military-style assault axe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_axe). Nuff sed.
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### Author:  [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/9 "2016-03-14T19:02:41Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> Such alternate universes (also known as countries) do exist. As such, it’s possible to compare homicide rates and see if there’s any meaningful difference between countries where the populace is armed and unarmed.
Why compare countries where the psychos have to use axes with those where the psychos can easily get guns instead?
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### Author:  [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/10 "2016-03-14T19:07:08Z")
Everyone’s going to have their pre-existing beliefs reinforced by this incident.
Some people are going to look at this incident and think how lucky the clerk was that the customer had a gun.
Some people are going to look at this incident and think how lucky the clerk was that the masked man didn’t have a gun.
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### Author:  [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/11 "2016-03-14T19:28:49Z")
> [@gnoitall](#):
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> [Military-style assault axe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_axe). Nuff sed.
I was thinking more like [this](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/be/56/51/be56516e4ea52c06a73f3ede5231d64a.jpg).
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### Author:  [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/12 "2016-03-14T19:34:37Z")
I think both sides in the gun debate should try and make peace by burying the hatchet.
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### Author:  [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/13 "2016-03-14T20:13:25Z")
> [@Eonwe](#):
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> Only because I’m sure that this is headed outside of MPSIMS based on the comment/ **non-comments already** :
Bolding mine.
Damn you are good.
REALLLLY good.
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### Author:  [@CoastalMaineiac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoastalMaineiac)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/14 "2016-03-14T20:25:31Z")
> [@Biotop](#):
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> I think both sides in the gun debate should try and make peace by burying the hatchet.
😃
I’ll admit, I laughed.
More seriously, what was this guy’s motive for the attack? Did he have a grudge against the clerk, or was he mentally ill?
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### Author:  [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/15 "2016-03-14T21:18:58Z")
> [@billfish678](#):
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> Bolding mine.
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> Damn you are good.
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> REALLLLY good.
I know, right? 😉
Or rather:
> [@Bricker](#):
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> (Removed comment as too snarky for MPSIMS)
. . . is like pushing this thread off the cliff of the gun thread debate, and then turning around and whistling like he had nothing to do with it. Not to mention the OP’s own history. I hardly think I was working magic.
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### Author:  [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/16 "2016-03-14T21:45:50Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Everyone’s going to have their pre-existing beliefs reinforced by this incident.
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> Some people are going to look at this incident and think how lucky the clerk was that the customer had a gun.
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> Some people are going to look at this incident and think how lucky the clerk was that the masked man didn’t have a gun.
Some will think how lucky everyone was that the shooter was white, lest he be shot by police on sight.
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### Author:  [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/17 "2016-03-14T22:44:34Z")
> [@CoastalMaineiac](#):
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> 😃
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> I’ll admit, I laughed.
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> More seriously, what was this guy’s motive for the attack? Did he have a grudge against the clerk, or was he mentally ill?
Sorry for the hatchet joke in a serious gun conversation. Such frivolity adze little to the debate.
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### Author:  [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/18 "2016-03-14T23:25:29Z")
> [@Biotop](#):
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> Sorry for the hatchet joke in a serious gun conversation. Such frivolity adze little to the debate.
I’m sure it’ll be okay, I don’t think anyone here has an axe to grind.
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### Author:  [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2016, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/19 "2016-03-15T00:47:51Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Everyone’s going to have their pre-existing beliefs reinforced by this incident.
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> Some people are going to look at this incident and think how lucky the clerk was that the customer had a gun.
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> Some people are going to look at this incident and think how lucky the clerk was that the masked man didn’t have a gun.
I have a hard time thinking that anybody was lucky in this situation at all. I guarantee you that if I get hatched, I’m going to say it was an unlucky day.
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### Author:  [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/20 "2016-03-15T01:01:43Z")
> [@billfish678](#):
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> I’m just wondering if my axe body spray stock went up or down…
It went up and down three or four times, by the sound of it.
So is there an update? Who was that Masked Man and what was his problem, anyway?
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