# Masked man attacks people in 7-11 with hatchet. Armed customer saves everybody.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 14, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987 "2016-03-14T17:33:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/21 "2016-03-15T02:50:46Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> I was thinking more like [this](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/be/56/51/be56516e4ea52c06a73f3ede5231d64a.jpg).

Looks like a way to ruin a perfectly good shotgun.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/22 "2016-03-15T03:23:00Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> It went up and down three or four times, by the sound of it.
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> So is there an update? Who was that Masked Man and what was his problem, anyway?

Probably just some kid with nothing to do looking for a way to relieve the Borden.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/23 "2016-03-15T03:53:36Z")

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There’s a hacker joke in here somewhere that I can’t make myself put together.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/24 "2016-03-15T04:05:44Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> There’s a hacker joke in here somewhere that I can’t make myself put together.

Oh come on, I am sure you can think of something cleaver.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/25 "2016-03-15T04:31:21Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> Looks like a way to ruin a perfectly good shotgun.

Nah. It’s just a bayonet with a glandular problem.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/26 "2016-03-15T06:00:49Z")

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If a Masked Man was attacking an Indian, I’m assuming he finally found out what “kemosabe” really meant.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/27 "2016-03-15T11:44:13Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> btw several other sources reported it was a hatchet. The clerk wouldn’t have survived a blow from an axe.

Say what?

[From here:](http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-axe-and-vs-hatchet/)

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> What is the difference between Axe and Hatchet?
> 
> • Size is the most prominent difference between an axe and a hatchet. A hatchet has a shorter handle than an axe.
> 
> • Axe is meant to be used to cut and chop wood that requires putting effort through both hands, whereas a hatchet can be used with a single hand and is meant for smaller or lesser jobs such as cutting through shrubs and young trees.
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> • Salespersons try to refer to a hatchet with a 12-inch handle as an axe, as they can charge more for an axe but do not fall for this trap.
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> • If you can use a tool with one hand, it is certainly a hatchet and not an axe.
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> • The blade of a hatchet is wider and more like an inverted funnel than that of an axe, which is slimmer and tapers out like a V.
> 
> • Hatchet is a multipurpose tool that can be used for many more tasks than just cutting wood, as many people use it as a weapon against animals too.
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> • There are many who refer to hand axes as hatchets, which is incorrect.

Depending on the skill of the person wielding the tool and the sharpness of the blade, there isn’t necessarily a big difference between the two tools.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/28 "2016-03-15T13:10:35Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> (Removed comment as too snarky for MPSIMS)

I guess I haven’t participated in enough SDMB gun debates, since I’m not sure why this situation calls for snark. Puns, sure, we can’t get away from those nor should we, but the customer’s action looks exactly like the kind of defensive gun use that gun-rights advocates trumpet.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/29 "2016-03-15T13:15:03Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> Some will think how lucky everyone was that the shooter was white, lest he be shot by police on sight.

“All I said to the clerk was, can I axe you somethi…”

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/30 "2016-03-15T13:56:40Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Quoth **Biotop** :
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> Sorry for the hatchet joke in a serious gun conversation. Such frivolity adze little to the debate.

I’m sure you didn’t mean to pick a fight.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/31 "2016-03-15T14:03:35Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Depending on the skill of the person wielding the tool and the sharpness of the blade, there isn’t necessarily a big difference between the two tools.

I am sick and tired of all these anti-axe folks who start these threads and don’t even know the difference between an axe and a hatchet!

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/32 "2016-03-15T14:05:58Z")

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I’m impressed the guy kept his composure and was able to get off a clean shot. It’s not easy in a situation like that in the middle of a violent attack.

I’m not sure that I could have done it. I hunt but thats an entirely different situation. Theres time to aim and relax before pulling the trigger.

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**Author:** ![Hermitian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hermitian/32/470_2.png) [@Hermitian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermitian)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/33 "2016-03-15T14:41:53Z")

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I am not Mr. Gun Control or anything, but I might quibble with the title.

I would consider it a stretch to say he saved _everybody_…considering that the assailant died and all.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/34 "2016-03-15T16:15:10Z")

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> [@Hermitian](#):
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> I would consider it a stretch to say he saved _everybody_…considering that the assailant died and all.

He was turning his life around…

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/35 "2016-03-15T16:17:21Z")

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Close friends say he wasn’t ecaxetly the sharpest knife in the drawer.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/36 "2016-03-15T16:24:29Z")

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> [@Hermitian](#):
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> I would consider it a stretch to say he saved _everybody_…considering that the assailant died and all.

He was a “Bad Guy”. So killing him was a Good Thing done by a “Good Guy”. It’s easy when you apply a black and white filter.

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**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/37 "2016-03-15T16:46:18Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> [Military-style assault axe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_axe). Nuff sed.

I saw “battle axe” in the url and expected a picture of my wife. Now to cut and run before she reads this. 😛

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/38 "2016-03-15T18:13:20Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> btw several other sources reported it was a hatchet. The clerk wouldn’t have survived a blow from an axe.

Further substantiated by some eyewitnesses claiming the assailant referred to his weapon as ‘Molly.’

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/39 "2016-03-15T19:39:22Z")

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The man with the gun is just the sort of person we need to Carry this Nation into the future.

I’ll show myself out.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masked-man-attacks-people-in-7-11-with-hatchet-armed-customer-saves-everybody/748987/40 "2016-03-15T19:51:04Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> If a Masked Man was attacking an Indian, I’m assuming he finally found out what “kemosabe” really meant.

BWAHA!

> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> He was a “Bad Guy”. So killing him was a Good Thing done by a “Good Guy”. It’s easy when you apply a black and white filter.

Would you be less incensed if the “Good Guy” beat the assailant off with a stale Twinky? He did what was necessary to save the life of an innocent person. Nothing more, nothing less.

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