# Mass Effect Legendary - my thoughts while I play these games (spoilers as I play) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** video-games-e-games\ **Created:** [May 13, 2021, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984 "2021-05-13T11:38:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2021, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/224 "2021-05-23T23:42:28Z")
The answer is always take Tali with you when you can. She’s the best. I think I said this in the other ME:L thread, but I love taking Tali on missions because her drone is a GREAT distraction for powerful baddiest during a firefight. I can let Geth Destroyers play with her drone while I take out the annoying flamethrower dudes etc. etc. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2021, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/225 "2021-05-23T23:45:46Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > If you haven’t solved the mystery of the volus’s missing credit chit on the Citadel, you should bring Tali along with you for some bonus conversational content with the quarian accused of taking it Alas, I did that one right away when I got there. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/226 "2021-05-24T01:05:37Z")
Here’s a video of BroShep completing that mystery with Tali in the party. It’s even better if you have Kasumi in your party, if I remember correctly. She’ll be astonished that Tali can jack people’s suits in the manner she suggested she would to the volus, and asks to be reminded not to piss Tali off. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Tx7us1b9sZ4/hqdefault.jpg "Mass Effect 2 - Missing Credit Chit with Tali in group [HD]") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx7us1b9sZ4) ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/227 "2021-05-24T02:57:37Z")
In this scenario, Jack, Zaeed, Miranda, Kasumi, Jacob, and Garrus will all have something to say about Tali’s threat. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/228 "2021-05-24T05:21:52Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > The answer is always take Tali with you when you can. She’s the best. Every time I play ME 2, I get excited by the possibility of using her AI Hacking ability and then I get disappointed that it doesn’t work until you strip all shields and armor off first. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/229 "2021-05-24T12:31:53Z")
…until you get to ME3 and she hacks the engineer turrets and then the REAL fun begins ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/230 "2021-05-24T13:31:35Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I am a settler, though, and have had a lot of success with Kasumi and Miranda. I’ve never played with Kasumi (don’t have the DLC), but Miranda is a pretty good all-rounder: Warp is good against biotic barriers and armor and Overload is good against shields. Also, if you’re playing the Soldier class, you have access to Squad Disrupter Ammo to boost your team’s effectiveness against shields and Squad Incendiary Ammo to boost effectiveness against armor. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/231 "2021-05-24T13:51:19Z")
I did swap out Kasumi for Tali now since she partnered with me the entire last game. I went to Illum and ran into: Liara - she wants me to hack some terminals. Gosh, maybe show me their locations? The creature I did not exterminate in game 1: It took over a woman’s body. I actually got +2 Renegade after talking/listening to it. The lady who I helped arrest the guy on Nuvem: I helped her bust a merchant. I am about to do Miranda’s loyalty quest since she is with me and I want her extra power. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/232 "2021-05-24T13:56:06Z")
Since ME:L has all the DLC, you can do a mission with Liara. It’s fantastic. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/233 "2021-05-24T14:00:29Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Since ME:L has all the DLC, you can do a mission with Liara. It’s fantastic Yeah, but she does not come back to the ship and join my crew, I guess? Shame, she was the other squad member I stuck with. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/234 "2021-05-24T14:32:45Z")
No, it’s just the one mission. Afterward, you can choose to re-kindle your romance a little bit, though, or have her chew you out for moving on and choosing someone else. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/235 "2021-05-24T15:43:10Z")
I did Miranda’s loyalty mission and also a bunch of sidequests around Illum. This game is massively better than the first one. I’m super impressed with this game and finding myself slowing down even more to take everything in. It’s a great game. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/236 "2021-05-24T17:09:57Z")
Kasumi has a great power where she warps to an enemy and does a super hard punch to them. It’s great for tagging dudes who keep hiding behind something. Though it does have a distance limit. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/237 "2021-05-24T18:24:19Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > Kasumi has a great power where she warps to an enemy and does a super hard punch to them. It’s great for tagging dudes who keep hiding behind something. Though it does have a distance limit Yeah, I just added her back to my party with Miranda since Kasumi does that and also is loyal. That power is great. “Going dark!” always makes me happy. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/238 "2021-05-24T20:13:58Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > This game is massively better than the first one. They definitely made a lot of improvements (e.g. in terms of pacing and level design). But this is as good a place as any to list some of my gripes. Story gripes: - Considering how incredibly evil Cerberus was in ME 1, it makes basically no sense for (paragon) Shepard to start immediately taking orders from them (outside of some military-grade fankwanking). It’s like Captain America reporting to Dr. Mengele. To add insult to injury, all of your old friends keep telling you to your face that it makes no sense. - The main story suffers a bit from being the middle part of a trilogy, so they have to introduce some new bad guys for you to fight instead of the Reapers. Gameplay gripes: - Each character gets three active powers, but more often than not two of the three powers are kind of duds (or at least only useful in uncommon situations). - They removed the infinite ammo and weapon mods from the previous game, which I thought gave ME 1 some distinctiveness from other shooters. Bonus gripe: - Jack can destroy three YMIR mechs empty-handed in a cut-scene, but she can barely make a scratch on one when she’s a member of my party? Aw, c’mon! ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/239 "2021-05-24T21:13:19Z")
It’s loyalty mission after loyalty mission for me right now. Not complaining at all, to be honest. They are great chances to mix up the crew and experience great single-player stories. Loyalty missions completed: Miranda, Kasumi, Mordin, Grunt Still to do: Jack, Jacob, Thane, Samara, Tali ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/240 "2021-05-24T22:32:15Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > single-player stories Make that single character stories. Still a squad. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/241 "2021-05-24T22:44:53Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > The answer is always take Tali with you when you can. She’s the best. Tali’s my boo. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/242 "2021-05-24T22:59:53Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Tali’s my boo Tali’s drone thing is a great distraction to enemies. Did she have any similar power in game 1? ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/243 "2021-05-24T23:58:37Z")
Don’t miss the Paragon interrupt moment halfway through Tali’s loyalty mission. You don’t get a long time to push that button. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984.md?page=13)