# Mass Effect Legendary - my thoughts while I play these games (spoilers as I play) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** video-games-e-games\ **Created:** [May 13, 2021, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984 "2021-05-13T11:38:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/324 "2021-05-27T14:57:55Z")
I know the shields saved me once, but were there any other upgrades that specifically saved me on the final issue? Joker specifically said, “good thing we upgraded that” in the mission. I did almost all the upgrades recommended by the crew, but I am not sure I did all of them. I can’t remember any more. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/325 "2021-05-27T15:01:08Z")
You also need the upgraded armor (for coming through the relay, I think) and the upgraded cannons (for destroying the Collector ship). The other stuff is not required. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/326 "2021-05-27T15:06:13Z")
[Here is my import screen for Mass Effect 3 if you want to see what it has on it.](https://imgur.com/cUF7WkH) ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/327 "2021-05-27T15:43:46Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Miranda? That does not seem logical. I would never pick her to be in charge. Biotic was more obvious. Jack and Samara indicated they could do it. She IS the second in command. I’d think she’d be the obvious choice. (I happen to like Miranda, a lot). ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/328 "2021-05-27T16:37:39Z")
Here’s a video of what happens if you totally crap the bed in the Suicide Mission. It is possible to make it so that _no one_ survives, not even Shepard. In which case, of course, you can’t import her to ME3. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/pRHhdc53Od8/maxresdefault.jpg "Mass Effect 2 Bad Ending: Everyone dies") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRHhdc53Od8) ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/329 "2021-05-27T16:53:41Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > She IS the second in command. I’d think she’d be the obvious choice. Hey, she was my primary squad mate. If she is available as a squad mate in 3, she will be as permanent as I can make someone. I will use Tali a lot as well. Anyway, nothing against Miranda, but I didn’t see her as a leader of a platoon of sorts. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/330 "2021-05-27T17:13:55Z")
Some other special dialogue moments you almost certainly missed, because you played the game correctly, and without the use of sequence-breaking or cheat codes: Taking Legion to recruit Tali on Haestrom (which is _almost_ impossible unless you’re sequence-breaking): [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/vDIIZqc5zAM/maxresdefault.jpg "Mass Effect 2: Geth! Get down! (When Tali first met Legion...)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDIIZqc5zAM) Taking Legion on Tali’s loyalty mission triggers some… _interesting_ reactions from the quarians. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/QDemlIaPv18/maxresdefault.jpg "Mass Effect 2: Legion Dialogs on Tali's Mission") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDemlIaPv18) Taking the aliens into the quarantine zone on Omega: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Zbk2xEERAsI/maxresdefault.jpg "Mass Effect 2 - Aliens and the Quarantine Zone (Hidden Dialogue)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbk2xEERAsI) ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/331 "2021-05-27T17:18:33Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Taking Legion to recruit Tali on Haestrom (which is _almost_ impossible unless you’re sequence-breaking): Wow, had no idea he could do almost anything. I kind of hated they threw in one more crew member that late. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/332 "2021-05-27T17:20:00Z")
Choosing to destroy the Collector Base with Miranda in the party triggers unique dialogue: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Wj4M83Fpj8c/maxresdefault.jpg "Mass Effect 2 - Choosing to Destroy the Collector Base") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj4M83Fpj8c) Squad and crewmate reactions to your destroying the Collector Base: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/azgq9dr06jc/maxresdefault.jpg "Mass Effect 2: Comments After Destroying the Collector Base") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azgq9dr06jc) By the way, you’ve been going mostly pure Paragon so far, but handing over the Collector Base to Cerberus is the Renegade ending to ME2. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/333 "2021-05-27T17:27:52Z")
You’re playing as FemShep, as I recall. Your romance options for ME2 are Jacob, Garrus, and Thane. BroShep’s options are Miranda, Tali, and Jack. It’s possible to sleep with Morinth after the Suicide Mission, but it kills you, of course, despite Morinth asserting that it wouldn’t. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/334 "2021-05-27T17:30:56Z")
Taking Tali and Legion on Garrus’s recruitment mission triggers hidden dialogue: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/3ojv2gUqx5Q/maxresdefault.jpg "Mass Effect 2 - Hidden Dialogue (Tali and Legion in Archangel Mission)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ojv2gUqx5Q) ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/335 "2021-05-27T17:59:24Z")
Mahaloth, did you like using the Warp power to detonate biotic effects (like Pull or Singularity) in Mass Effect 2? If so, you’ll enjoy the expanded combo system in Mass Effect 3 (e.g. using Concussive Shot on a burning enemy creates a fiery explosion). ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/336 "2021-05-27T18:27:06Z")
I did the tutorial/intro on Mass Effect 3 and finally got up into the Normandy. I kind of fell in love with the ship design in ME2 so wandering around and seeing it now is kind of sad. Not to mention it is kind of empty, missing my crew mates. It’s OK, but man…they took out chunks of it. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/337 "2021-05-27T18:27:50Z")
I see that. Yeah, I do that sometimes and it’s nice to see combat might be improved even more. I think I can run for an unlimited amount of time now, too. Finally! ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/338 "2021-05-27T18:30:09Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Choosing to destroy the Collector Base with Miranda in the party triggers unique dialogue: I regret not doing this. She was in my party and I think that was the better choice. Ugh. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/339 "2021-05-27T18:48:39Z")
Singularity/Warp combos are almost my entire ME2/3 offense, at least until I get the Flare bonus ability from the ME3 Omega DLC. Guns are just for peeling off shields. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/340 "2021-05-27T18:59:09Z")
You should go through the trilogy at least a few more times if, for no other reason, than to explore the fantastic abilities you can have as different classes. I love playing as a Vanguard and spamming Biotic Charge/Nova in ME3. You teleport to your target, knock them back, and then use your shield power to perform a powerful biotic attack. It’s _so_ freaking cool. You can even teleport to targets that are on a different level than you are. And, of course, run through the game again so you can explore other romances. Garrus is my big turian boyfriend in ME2, and Tali is my sweet quarian girlfriend. Thane is very sweet, too. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/341 "2021-05-27T19:15:30Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Singularity/Warp combos are almost my entire ME2/3 offense, at least until I get the Flare bonus ability from the ME3 Omega DLC. In Mass Effect: Andromeda, 99% of my offense has been Incinerate (prime/detonate) and Throw (detonate) and the turret that primes targets. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/342 "2021-05-27T20:14:28Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Here’s a video of what happens if you totally crap the bed in the Suicide Mission. It is possible to make it so that _no one_ survives, not even Shepard. In which case, of course, you can’t import her to ME3. If you let Wrex die in ME1, and then play ME2 so everyone dies except Shepard (very difficult, but not impossible), ME3 becomes kind of an amazing experience. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/343 "2021-05-27T20:19:30Z")
Agreed; I did the simpler thing of letting everyone except Grunt and Morinth die and ME3 was a very lonely place. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984.md?page=18)