# Mass Effect Legendary - my thoughts while I play these games (spoilers as I play) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** video-games-e-games\ **Created:** [May 13, 2021, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984 "2021-05-13T11:38:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/564 "2021-06-16T01:07:18Z")
Can’t be Synthesis because Liara isn’t green, and probably wasn’t refuse because Liara is…well…alive. Given that she apparently walks on a dead Reaper I’m guessing it’s destroy ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/565 "2021-06-19T17:44:49Z")
@Mahaloth, did you let Garrus beat you in the sniping contest on top of the Citadel catwalk in ME3? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/566 "2021-06-19T19:26:32Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > @Mahaloth did you let Garrus beat you in the sniping contest on top of the Citadel catwalk in ME3? No, why? ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/567 "2021-06-19T20:07:01Z")
Because this happens if you miss: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/_lgeGNaC6YY/maxresdefault.jpg "I'm Garrus Vakarian and this is now my favorite spot on the citadel Mass Effect 3") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lgeGNaC6YY) ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/568 "2021-06-19T21:31:35Z")
Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/569 "2021-06-20T01:26:49Z")
Idk if one of his videos has been linked here which is how I found him, or if I found him just through Youtube recommendations, but there’s a guy named “Big Dan” who has A TON of “what if…” Mass Effect videos. They are amazing things like “What if You Don’t Accept Anyone into your Party in ME1” or “What are all the Outcomes of Your Virmire Survivor’s Standoff in ME3”. I’ve loved watching these because there are a bunch of things that I’ve never seen before because I’m too much of a fuddy-duddy to do renegade things ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/570 "2021-06-20T01:33:53Z")
If you ignore Garrus in the first game and never meet him or talk to him, does he join your crew in the second game anyway? ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/571 "2021-06-20T01:36:59Z")
Yes, and Shepard recognizes him too. I don’t think you can play the first game without ever talking to him, so you’re at least aware of his presence. But you can refuse him in your ME1 game. The meeting in 2 is less “omg Garrus! my friend!” and more “Hey look who it is! what’s up” ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/572 "2021-06-20T01:40:57Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > Idk if one of his videos has been linked here which is how I found him, or if I found him just through Youtube recommendations, but there’s a guy named “Big Dan” who has A TON of “what if…” Mass Effect videos. Very cool. He has a bunch of “What If” Fallout 4 videos that are fun as well, like “what if you kill Father before he says a single word to you” and how that plays out with everyone and so forth. I’ll admit, I never did that in Fallout 4 and it is interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/573 "2021-06-20T05:08:48Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > No, why? I always do. I’m his commanding officer, and I want him feeling confident and good about himself before the final mission - after all, sniping is his “thing”. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/574 "2021-06-20T23:30:17Z")
I always thought his thing was screaming ONE LESS TO WORRY ABOUT! ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/575 "2021-06-20T23:45:31Z")
Or calibrating the ship’s guns. Or saying “Just like old times”. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/576 "2021-06-23T02:55:52Z")
@Mahaloth: From BroShep and Tali’s romance in the _Citadel_ DLC: Shepard and Tali watch a movie together and Tali sings a romantic song. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/nGnbEtube-g/maxresdefault.jpg "Mass Effect 3 Citadel DLC - Good romance time with Tali ( Tali singing )") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGnbEtube-g) From FemShep and Garrus’s romance in the _Citadel_ DLC: Shepard and Garrus go on their “first date” and dance the tango. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/V-rcEf-ThHA/maxresdefault.jpg "Mass Effect 3: Citadel - Shepard and Garrus Tango Dance") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-rcEf-ThHA) ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/577 "2021-06-23T03:42:58Z")
Wow…I’ve played through this game several times and I never knew about that tango. Kewl. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/578 "2021-06-23T08:50:59Z")
Speaking of “multiple plays and still finding new stuff,” here’s something I just randomly discovered — In ME2, the very first time you land on Illium, if you look closely as you leave the landing area and enter the main city space, you can see Liara in the window of her office, watching anxiously for Shepard’s arrival. After that, the window is empty. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/579 "2021-06-23T16:08:25Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Speaking of “multiple plays and still finding new stuff,” here’s something I just randomly discovered — In ME2, the very first time you land on Illium, [I think this is the first time there in this guy’s playthrough. Where is it?](https://youtu.be/dgIl-bUnnpo?t=141) ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/580 "2021-06-23T16:27:54Z")
That guy’s video moves around a lot and doesn’t give you a clear view of Liara’s office window, but if you pause carefully through the 4:13 mark, you can see her. Or, you can see here, where I went back to an earlier save and used photo mode to get a clearer, crisper look at Liara gazing down, and Shepard looking back up, meeting her beloved’s eyes… > ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/581 "2021-07-01T20:24:52Z")
I will give IGN credit, they did not rush together a review of the entire Legendary update, but are taking time to play each game and review them individually. They just reviewed ME2 and gave it a 9/10. [They called it the best of the series and I would agree.](https://www.ign.com/articles/mass-effect-legendary-edition-review-mass-effect-2-review) I have a lot of love for the climactic missions of ME3, though. The Krogan ending, Quarian ending, and the Main-Quest Ending were all really excellent to me. The Asari mission of ME3 was just kind of there for me. Not bad, just kind of had to include them but hadn’t built up to the final mission over multiple games, so it just occurred and we left. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/582 "2021-07-01T20:35:16Z")
Sometimes I think there must be something wrong with me: ME2 is not my favourite Mass Effect, Fallout: New Vegas is not my favourite (modern) Fallout, and Empire Strikes Back is not my favourite Star Wars film. I agree that the suicide mission was sheer genius, though. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/583 "2021-07-01T22:35:06Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > Sometimes I think there must be something wrong with me: ME2 is not my favourite Mass Effect, Fallout: New Vegas is not my favourite (modern) Fallout, and Empire Strikes Back is not my favourite Star Wars film. OK, what are your favorites of those three series? I would say: 1. New Vegas 2. Return of the Jedi 3. Mass Effect 2 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984.md?page=28) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984.md?page=30)