# Mass Effect Legendary - my thoughts while I play these games (spoilers as I play)

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** video-games-e-games\
**Created:** [May 13, 2021, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984 "2021-05-13T11:38:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/604 "2021-11-08T00:38:02Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> From what I’m reading your choice isn’t going to matter in 4.

Are they really doing a Mass Effect 4?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/605 "2021-11-08T00:39:08Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> I’m glad I played through it again. I don’t know how anyone can play it over and over. I have to move on.

I played in May and am still not ready to do it again. It’s great and I played every single DLC and the main games…but it is just too much to go back through right now.

I found 3’s payoffs to be so emotionally satisfying. I can’t reset everything back to the way it was in ME1. It’s too much to go back now. I need a couple years.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/606 "2021-11-08T01:56:34Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> > [@Loach](#):
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> > From what I’m reading your choice isn’t going to matter in 4.
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> Are they really doing a Mass Effect 4?

They released a teaser trailer last December but I’m hearing it will be years before it comes out. The teaser trailer makes it seem like it will be based off of the destroy ending but they are so far off from an actual product who knows?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/607 "2021-11-08T02:20:11Z")

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[Hey I guess just today, they teased the continuation of Mass Effect.](https://www.ign.com/articles/mass-effect-a-new-poster-teases-the-future-of-mass-effect)

I can’t imagine a sequel after the ending(s) of the original trilogy.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/608 "2021-11-08T02:28:25Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> [Hey I guess just today, they teased the continuation of Mass Effect.](https://www.ign.com/articles/mass-effect-a-new-poster-teases-the-future-of-mass-effect)
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> I can’t imagine a sequel after the ending(s) of the original trilogy.

The teaser trailer I mentioned is also linked in that article. I’m hearing a 2025 release.

> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> > [@Loach](#):
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> > I can’t help myself, I went straight paragon. I just can’t go the other route.
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> Me too.
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> > Dana Allers was annoying. I don’t care about the controversy. The character was useless. She gave you like two conversations.
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> No kidding, what a joke.
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> > I don’t know what I did wrong but I never was able to get a romance going in the first two. I finally was able to romance Traynor in 3. I thought I spoke to everyone when I could but I must have made a wrong choice.
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> Next time, try Liara. No effort required as far as I could tell.

I know I had Liara the first time I played. I was trying for something different

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/609 "2021-11-08T05:09:44Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Dana Allers was annoying. I don’t care about the controversy. The character was useless. She gave you like two conversations.

Well…these were interludes. They were not ever meant to be integral to the story.

I am fine with interludes. They can help pace the story and give a little respite from the main story.

Was Allers a good interlude? Eh…not great but I can live with it.

My main point being is not every moment in the game has to be an intense moment that directly links into the main plot. There is room for downtime and sometimes it can be great (e.g. [Mordin singing Gilbert and Sullivan](https://youtu.be/bj0iJtgHOCI?t=33)).

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/610 "2021-11-08T13:07:56Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> I don’t know what I did wrong but I never was able to get a romance going in the first two. I finally was able to romance Traynor in 3. I thought I spoke to everyone when I could but I must have made a wrong choice.

I thought the romance choices for female Shepard in Mass Effect 2 were pretty weak. For Thane, you have to listen to him talk about his dead wife a zillion times but for Garrus he simply offers to have a quickie if you talk to him before the suicide mission. I forget what Jacob has to say (which says something about how memorable it was).

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/611 "2021-11-08T14:11:24Z")

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Jacob barely needs to say anything because Femshep basically throws herself at him.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/612 "2021-11-08T14:58:38Z")

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Yeah, pickings for Femshep are pretty slim in ME2. I usually just flirt with Kelly Chambers while waiting for my girl Liara to come back in ME3 (or Lair of the Shadow Broker). Flirt with her long enough, and Kelly will also volunteer to feed the fish.

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/613 "2021-11-08T15:19:27Z")

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I never even talk to Jacob except to get his loyalty mission, so I never get a hint of romance between him and my Femshep. I like him better in ME3, but he’s the worst major character in the entire trilogy IMO.

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> [@Loach](#):
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> I don’t know what I did wrong but I never was able to get a romance going in the first two. I finally was able to romance Traynor in 3. I thought I spoke to everyone when I could but I must have made a wrong choice.

This surprises me, especially if you’re playing paragon. I feel that as long as you show even a modicum of interest in a person’s life, they trigger the romance. I end up getting caught with too many romances simply because I give a shit.

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/615 "2021-11-08T18:02:01Z")

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> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> Yeah, pickings for Femshep are pretty slim in ME2. I usually just flirt with Kelly Chambers while waiting for my girl Liara to come back in ME3 (or Lair of the Shadow Broker). Flirt with her long enough, and Kelly will also volunteer to feed the fish.

I was working Kelly pretty hard until I managed to get her killed off. Apparently your scene with her doesn’t happen until the end of 2 if she doesn’t die.

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**Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/616 "2021-11-09T03:07:01Z")

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Feeding the fish? That happens about halfway through the game, if you’ve been consistently talking to Kelly. There is an additional scene with Kelly that can happen after the Suicide Mission, where you summon her to your cabin. That only occurs if Kelly has volunteered to feed your fish and you’re not in a romance with anyone else (Liara doesn’t count).

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**Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/617 "2021-11-09T03:32:44Z")

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> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> Feeding the fish? That happens about halfway through the game, if you’ve been consistently talking to Kelly. There is an additional scene with Kelly that can happen after the Suicide Mission, where you summon her to your cabin. That only occurs if Kelly has volunteered to feed your fish and you’re not in a romance with anyone else (Liara doesn’t count).

She fed my fish. She refused to come to my cabin after the Suicide Mission because she was dead.

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**Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/618 "2021-11-09T03:51:43Z")

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OK. It wasn’t clear whether you thought “feeding the fish” was a euphemism.

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/619 "2021-11-24T15:11:21Z")

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They might make a TV show out of Mass Effect. It could be amazing. It could also be total trash. I can’t picture the story of the game being told again in any better version than we got in the game itself.

I can’t work up energy to replay, but I still think about all the characters even months after playing it. It’s one of the best stories I’ve been a part of in gaming.

[Link to a story about the potential show.](https://gizmodo.com/mass-effect-tv-series-may-be-on-the-way-from-amazon-stu-1848113891)

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/620 "2021-11-24T17:40:14Z")

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The show better be FemShep. If it’s BroShep, GTFO.

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I could see making a 10 episode series out of the first game. I’m curious what make-up they’d use for turians and krogan in a live-action series, though.

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> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#):
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> The show better be FemShep. If it’s BroShep, GTFO.

Either way there will be plenty of aliens to be schtupped.

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**Post date:** [November 25, 2021, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-effect-legendary-my-thoughts-while-i-play-these-games-spoilers-as-i-play/941984/623 "2021-11-25T18:25:16Z")

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Plot twist: TV series to focus three Elcor trying to navigate fast-paced life on the Citadel. Dramatic tension abounds when relations between the three main characters develop into a love triangle. Well, dramatic tension abounds if you can read Elcor body language, anyways. For added realism in scenes with each other they don’t do the verbal emote thing.

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