# Mass Killings in the United States 2019 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 24, 2019, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304 "2019-01-24T01:17:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/41 "2019-04-30T03:09:23Z")
> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#): > > Killed 110 Why didn’t killed go up to 114? ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/42 "2019-04-30T13:25:02Z")
A mistake on my part. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/43 "2019-05-09T13:10:57Z")
1. 28 April 2019 West Chester Township OH 4 killed (shot) ([West Chester shooting victim named by religious leader](https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/crime-and-courts/2019/04/29/west-chester-apartment-homicide-police-update/3615809002/)) 2. 7 May 2019 Toppenish WA 4 killed (vehicular homicide) ([4 killed, 3 injured in central Washington crash](https://q13fox.com/2019/05/08/4-killed-3-injured-in-central-washington-crash/)) Incidents 27 Killed 118 ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/44 "2019-05-17T14:27:57Z")
The North Saint Louis killing is still pending more information. PP) 13 May 2019 North Saint Louis MO 4 killed? ([News](https://www.kmov.com/news/shot-dead-in-north-city-firefighters-say/article_a369ea82-75ed-11e9-953e-37c85e710cf1.html)) (pending. No real word on “one killer” or suicide) ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/45 "2019-05-21T13:11:55Z")
The previous pending case is presently disallowed as reports indicate a number of killers. 28) 17 May 2019 McDonough GA 4 killed (vehicular homicide) ([Truck driver charged in deaths of 4 killed in fiery crash on Georgia interstate – Boston 25 News](https://www.boston25news.com/news/trending-now/truck-driver-charged-in-deaths-of-4-killed-in-fiery-crash-on-georgia-interstate/950832270)) Incidents 28 Killed 122 ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/46 "2019-05-25T13:59:31Z")
1. 24 May 2019 Kingman AZ 5\* killed (vehicular homicide) ([Arizona's Family | Phoenix News](https://www.azfamily.com/traffic/killed-in-wrong-way-crash-on-i--west-of/article_c52fba2e-7e45-11e9-a3c8-3f7540578c18.html)) Incidents 29 Killed 127 ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/47 "2019-05-27T13:06:30Z")
1. 25 May 2019 Ann Arbor MI 4\* killed (vehicular homicide) ([https://www.clickondetroit.com/all-about-ann-arbor/wrong-way-driver-in-crash-near-ann-arbor-that-killed-three-identified](https://www.clickondetroit.com/all-about-ann-arbor/wrong-way-driver-in-crash-near-ann-arbor-that-killed-three-identified)) Incidents 30 Killed 131 ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/48 "2019-05-31T01:48:44Z")
There is a new #22 as the police have confirmed a traditional murder-suicide. 1. 1 April 2019 Cedar Hill TX 4\* killed (shot/arson) ([ME: Pastor shot himself after starting Cedar Hill fire that killed his family](http://www.fox4news.com/news/me-pastor-shot-himself-before-starting-cedar-hill-fire-that-killed-his-family)) Incidents 31 Killed 135 The Commissioner is monitoring the situation in Dinwiddie Virginia and is awaiting more details. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/49 "2019-05-31T23:31:38Z")
**Virginia Beach, VA** [11](https://pilotonline.com/news/government/local/article_777b737e-83e3-11e9-b1d0-dff7ad725d5e.html) killed & 6 injured, at the municipal complex by a long time employee. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/50 "2019-06-01T00:56:43Z")
Now says 12 killed – perhaps they are now counting the shooter (killed by police, which I think should be counted as a suicide, since he was exchanging fire with them). > [@Spiderman's Link](#): > > When his fiancé texted him there was a shooter on her floor, Paul Swain sped to the Municipal Center so fast he was pulled over for speeding. He made it to the school and was waiting for her to come out. “Pulled over”? You let a cop pull you over in that situation? ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/51 "2019-06-01T02:38:25Z")
#32 may change as The Commissioner determines more officially the total number killed and if the murderer died by as own hand, as is traditional. 1. 31 May 2019 Virginia Beach VA 13\* (shot) ([At Least 12 Killed, 4 Injured In Virginia Beach Shooting At Municipal Center | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/virginia-beach-shooting-municipal-center_n_5cf1b0b5e4b0e8085e3a3a33)) Incidents 32 Killed 148 ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/52 "2019-06-01T02:55:31Z")
[BBC story](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48481814) includes > [@](#): > > According to US tracking website Gun Violence Archive, the incident is the 150th mass shooting in the US so far in 2019. Presumably that source uses a somewhat lower threshold than the Commissioner. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/53 "2019-06-01T03:11:55Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > “Pulled over”? You let a cop pull you over in that situation? The story has been obviously updated; that tidbit wasn’t in it originally. > [@eschereal](#): > > Presumably that source uses a somewhat lower threshold than the Commissioner. Looks like they use 4 shot, killed _or_ injured. Our commissioner’s thread is on mass _killings_. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/54 "2019-06-01T03:32:50Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > [BBC story](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48481814) includes > Presumably that source uses a somewhat lower threshold than the Commissioner. The Commissioner feels no need to keep a list of mass shootings, as other people do that. His list is unique. A mass shooting list has an obvious agenda. A mass killing list not so much. With this data we can see the relationship of gun-mass-killings to all mass killings. Further, and surprisingly, we can see the large number of automobile crashes that kill four or more people caused by driver error. This list provides insights not otherwise available. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/55 "2019-06-01T04:28:37Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > **Virginia Beach, VA** [11](https://pilotonline.com/news/government/local/article_777b737e-83e3-11e9-b1d0-dff7ad725d5e.html) killed & 6 injured, at the municipal complex by a long time employee. [Professional Engineer, with a BS CivE from Old Dominion](https://heavy.com/news/2019/05/dewayne-craddock/). Used a .45 pistol with a suppressor. Assuming he bought the suppressor legitimately, he passed a lengthier background check than that required to purchase a handgun. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/56 "2019-06-05T05:51:01Z")
# Because of two incidents being double-counted, and a new incident in Virginia, here is the corrected list. This will also serve as the midyear report. Mass killings in the United States, 2019. Four or more dead (Suicides Indicated by an asterisk) By a single killer By any criminal means ==2019== 1. 6 January 2019 Lexington KY 6\* killed (DWI/vehicular homicide) ([UPDATE: Six Killed In Fiery Wrong-Way Crash On I-75](https://lex18.com/breaking-news-emails/2019/01/06/i-75-closed-after-fiery-crash/)) 2. 20 January 2019 Woodburn OR 4 killed (axe) ([Man Accused of Murdering Four Family Members in Rural Oregon Shot Dead by Cops](https://www.thedailybeast.com/man-accused-of-murdering-four-family-members-in-rural-oregon-shot-dead-by-cops?ref=home)) 3. 23 January 2019 Sebring FL 5 killed (shot) ([Sebring, FL - Police: 5 Fatally Shot Inside Florida Bank, Suspect In Custody After SWAT Negotiation - VINnews](https://www.vosizneias.com/315048/2019/01/23/sebring-fl-police-5-fatally-shot-inside-florida-bank-suspect-in-custody-after-swat-negotiation/)) 4. 24 January 2019 Rockmart GA 4 killed (shot) ([GBI: Suspect in deadly Rockmart shooting taken into custody | FOX 5 Atlanta](http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/sheriff-4-dead-2-others-injured-in-rockmart-shooting)) 5. 26 January 2019 Gonzales LA 5 killed (shot) ([Louisiana sheriff says 'a monster,' Dakota Theriot, admits killing 5 with stolen gun](https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/crime_police/article_300ca8b8-23d6-11e9-9ece-0712638679f3.html)) 6. 24 January 2019 State College PA 4\* killed (shot) ([4th person dies after shooting spree near Penn State University - 6abc Philadelphia](https://6abc.com/4th-person-dies-after-shooting-spree-near-penn-state/5105986/)) 7. 2 February 2019 Bowie MD 6 killed (DWI/Vehicular Homicide) ([6th Person Dies After Bowie Crash That Took Lives of 5 Children – NBC4 Washington](https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/6th-Person-Dies-After-Bowie-Crash-That-Took-Lives-5-Children-506021111.html)) 8. 3 February 2019 Palm Springs CA 4 killed (shot) ([https://www.kesq.com/news/three-people-found-dead-at-palm-springs-](https://www.kesq.com/news/three-people-found-dead-at-palm-springs-) crash-scene-may-have-been-homicide-victims-/1002609968) 9. 11 February 2019 Livingston TX 5\* killed (shot) ([https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/texas/article/Sheriff-5-found-shot-dead-in-Polk-County-home-13607861.php](https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/texas/article/Sheriff-5-found-shot-dead-in-Polk-County-home-13607861.php)) 10. 15 February 2019 Aurora IL 5 killed (shot) ([Gunman who killed 5 at Illinois workplace 'was being terminated,' police say | CBC News](https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/aurora-illinois-shooting-1.5021912)) 11. 16 February 2019 Clinton MS 4 killed (shot)([https://www.wlbt.com/2019/02/16/active-hostage-situation-taking-place-clinton/](https://www.wlbt.com/2019/02/16/active-hostage-situation-taking-place-clinton/)) 12. 17 February 2019 Santa Anna CA 4 killed (DWI/vehicular homicide) ([Four Killed in Suspected Drunk Driving Crash in Santa Ana – NBC Los Angeles](https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/4-Dead-in-Suspected-DUI-Crash-in-Santa-Ana-505961321.html)) 13. 18 February 2019 Cedar Springs MI 4 killed (shot)([Kent County deputies confirm four dead in shooting west of Cedar Springs](https://wwmt.com/news/local/kent-co-deputies-responding-to-multiple-deceased-near-cedar-springs)) 14. 27 February 2019 Jolliet IL 4\* killed (shot) ([4 dead, including 2 children, in possible murder-suicide in Joliet | FOX 32 Chicago](http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/crime/4-dead-in-apparent-slayings-suicide-in-joliet)) 15. 1 March 2019 Oklahoma City OK 4\* killed (reckless driving) ([https://kfor.com/2019/03/01/4-killed-in-wrong-way-crash-along-i-40/](https://kfor.com/2019/03/01/4-killed-in-wrong-way-crash-along-i-40/)) 16. 25 March 2019 Duval County TX 4(?) killed (reckless driving) ([https://ktiv.com/2019/03/25/4-killed-6-hospitalized-after-suv-crashes-in-south-texas/](https://ktiv.com/2019/03/25/4-killed-6-hospitalized-after-suv-crashes-in-south-texas/)) 17. 27 March 2019 Centennial AZ 4\* killed (DWI) ([Crash that killed 4 reminder of Arizona's battle with wrong-way drivers](https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-traffic/2019/03/27/crash-killed-4-i-10-reminder-arizonas-battle-wrong-way-drivers/3294090002/)) 18. 1 April 2019 Mandan ND, 4 killed (multiple) ([The Latest: Police look for motive in North Dakota deaths](https://www.apnews.com/3394e4da5e954e49be1624750eb37ebf)) 19. 1 April 2019 Loxley AL 4 killed (reckless driving) ([https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/alabama/articles/2019-04-01/4-dead-after-vehicle-flees-wrong-way-on-alabama-interstate](https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/alabama/articles/2019-04-01/4-dead-after-vehicle-flees-wrong-way-on-alabama-interstate)) 20. 1 April 2019 Cedar Hill TX 4\* killed (shot/arson) ([ME: Pastor shot himself after starting Cedar Hill fire that killed his family | FOX 4 Dallas-Fort Worth](http://www.fox4news.com/news/me-pastor-shot-himself-before-starting-cedar-hill-fire-that-killed-his-family)) 21. 11 April 2019 Phoenix AZ 4 killed (multiple) ([Arizona man accused of killing four people, including wife and two daughters, believed murders OK ‘in God’s eyes’ – New York Daily News](https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ny-arizona-man-four-murders-god-approved-20190414-syobw7b6ljfe7a7aqdospoyz2m-story.html)) 22. 22 April 2019 North Fort Worth TX 4 killed (not reported) ([4 Family Members Found Dead in North Fort Worth Home – NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth](https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Four-Dead-in-Apparent-Murder-Suicide-in-Fort-Worth-508906071.html)) 23. 25 April 2019 Denver CO 4 killed (vehicular homicide) ([I-70 semi crash: Highway reopens a day after fiery crash kills at least 4 at Denver West](https://www.denverpost.com/2019/04/26/i-70-closed-denver-west-lakewood-semi-crash/)) ([Truck driver charged in fiery I-70 crash that killed 4 people won't have to wear GPS device | 9news.com](https://www.9news.com/article/news/crime/truck-driver-charged-in-fiery-i-70-crash-that-killed-4-people-wont-have-to-wear-gps-device/73-55f1517f-b604-43ad-8e44-1e6d8347d362)) 24. 27 April 2019 Sumner County TN 7 killed (beaten) ([7 people found killed in 2 homes in Tennessee; suspect captured - ABC News](https://abcnews.go.com/US/people-found-dead-homes-sumner-county-tennessee/story?id=62681300)) 25. 28 April 2019 West Chester Township OH 4 killed (shot) ([West Chester shooting victim named by religious leader](https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/crime-and-courts/2019/04/29/west-chester-apartment-homicide-police-update/3615809002/)) 26. 7 May 2019 Toppenish WA 4 killed (vehicular homicide) ([4 killed, 3 injured in central Washington crash | FOX 13 Seattle](https://q13fox.com/2019/05/08/4-killed-3-injured-in-central-washington-crash/)) 27. 17 May 2019 McDonough GA 4 killed (vehicular homicide) ([Truck driver charged in deaths of 4 killed in fiery crash on Georgia interstate - Boston 25 News](https://www.boston25news.com/news/trending-now/truck-driver-charged-in-deaths-of-4-killed-in-fiery-crash-on-georgia-interstate/950832270)) 28. 24 May 2019 Kingman AZ 5\* killed (vehicular homicide) ([Arizona News](https://www.azfamily.com/traffic/killed-in-wrong-way-crash-on-i--west-of/article_c52fba2e-7e45-11e9-a3c8-3f7540578c18.html)) 29. 25 May 2019 Ann Arbor MI 4\* killed (vehicular homicide) ([https://www.clickondetroit.com/all-about-ann-arbor/wrong-way-driver-in-crash-near-ann-arbor-that-killed-three-identified](https://www.clickondetroit.com/all-about-ann-arbor/wrong-way-driver-in-crash-near-ann-arbor-that-killed-three-identified)) 30. 28 May 2019 Dinwiddie County VA 4 killed (vehicular homicide) ([https://www.wric.com/news/local-news/4-killed-multiple-people-hurt-after-church-van-rear-ended-in-dinwiddie/2034788716](https://www.wric.com/news/local-news/4-killed-multiple-people-hurt-after-church-van-rear-ended-in-dinwiddie/2034788716)) 31. 31 May 2019 Virginia Beach VA 12 (shot) ([At Least 12 Killed, 4 Injured In Virginia Beach Shooting At Municipal Center | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/virginia-beach-shooting-municipal-center_n_5cf1b0b5e4b0e8085e3a3a33)) Incidents 31 Killed 144 ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/57 "2019-06-12T06:20:52Z")
5 Dead. White Swan/Yakima Reservation. Washington. Shot. > **[2 charged in killings on Yakama reservation](https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/jun/10/four-people-in-custody-following-the-killing-of-5-/)** > > Two men are accused of killing five people, stealing a vehicle and holding a gun to a child’s head on the Yakama Indian Reservation in Central Washington. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/58 "2019-06-12T11:28:34Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > 5 Dead. White Swan/Yakima Reservation. Washington. Shot. > [2 charged in killings on Yakama reservation | The Spokesman-Review](https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/jun/10/four-people-in-custody-following-the-killing-of-5-/) The Commissioner thanks you. This list is limited to events with a single killer. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2019, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/59 "2019-06-16T02:41:12Z")
Sort of pending a determination of a single killer. 1. 15 June 2018 West Des Moines IA 4 killed (shot) ([4 bodies found in West Des Moines home suffered gunshot wounds](https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/2019/06/15/west-des-moines-iowa-home-multiple-people-found-dead-police-investigation/1465853001/)) Incidents 32 Killed 146 ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2019, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/60 "2019-06-16T06:39:52Z")
> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#): > > The Commissioner has ruled that this is a list of killings of four or more people by a single killer in on emotional event by any criminal means. It gets dicey when the killer also does, and so in not charged. Previously, he was criticized that the list included a dead man with a gun, but not a dead driver in a car. Now it does. If the news report indicates the driver most likely would have been charged had he survived, it goes on the list. I don’t know who the commissioner is, but I approve. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304.md?page=4)