# Mass Killings in the United States 2019

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 24, 2019, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304 "2019-01-24T01:17:49Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/81 "2019-08-06T00:00:18Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> The authorities are saying Dayton is No. 250 for this year, based on an official definition of mass shooting as four or more dead not counting the shooter. I have no doubt we could hit 500 by year-end. USA! USA!

Not 4 or more dead, but 4 or more people hit by bullets. This thread is for 4 or more dead, howsoever.

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/82 "2019-08-07T06:37:41Z")

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[6 August, Stone Mountain GA](https://reut.rs/2YswXw5), 3 people shot at a home, shooter drove home and offed himself, 4\* total.

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**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/83 "2019-08-09T16:54:50Z")

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# Please check The Comissioner’s math:

1. 4 August 2019 Dayton OH 9\* killed (shot) ([2019 Dayton shooting - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Dayton_shooting))

2. 4 August 2019 El Paso TX 20 killed (shot) ([2019 El Paso Walmart shooting - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_El_Paso_shooting))

3. 6 August 2019 Stone Mountain GA 4\* killed (shot) ([https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-shooting-georgia/four-dead-in-apparent-murder-suicide-in-suburban-atlanta-idUSKCN1UX0BI](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-shooting-georgia/four-dead-in-apparent-murder-suicide-in-suburban-atlanta-idUSKCN1UX0BI))

4. 8 August 2019 Los Angeles County CA 4 killed (stabbed) ([4 killed, 2 wounded in California stabbing rampage](https://www.stltoday.com/news/national/killed-wounded-in-california-stabbing-rampage/article_37fd1671-b9ac-50fc-8633-e47fd01dfc19.html))

Incidents 47  
Killed 231

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/84 "2019-08-10T03:57:14Z")

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> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#):
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> 1. 4 August 2019 Dayton OH 9\* killed (shot) ([2019 Dayton shooting - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Dayton_shooting))

There is no “\*” in this one. The number does not change.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/85 "2019-08-10T10:29:53Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> There is no “\*” in this one. The number does not change.

Many thanks.

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/86 "2019-08-17T04:08:05Z")

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1. 14 August 2019 Lancaster CA 4\* killed (vehicular homicide) ([https://ktla.com/2019/08/15/authorities-id-2-men-2-women-killed-in-violent-lancaster-crash/](https://ktla.com/2019/08/15/authorities-id-2-men-2-women-killed-in-violent-lancaster-crash/))

Incidents 48  
Killed 235

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/87 "2019-08-30T03:06:59Z")

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Charges now in the Allegheny County NY crash:

1. 4 killed Dansville NY, 4 killed (vehicular homicide) ([Teen charged in Dansville crash that killed 4 teens | WHAM](https://13wham.com/news/local/teen-charged-in-dansville-crash-that-killed-4-teens))

Incidents 49  
Killed 239

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2019, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/88 "2019-09-01T01:21:58Z")

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1. 31 August 2019 Odessa TX 4 killed (shot) ([Five killed, including gunman, 21 injured in West Texas shooting | Reuters](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-texas-shooting/two-killed-around-20-injured-in-texas-shooting-media-idUSKCN1VL0SP?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social&__twitter_impression=true&utm_source=reddit.com))

Incidents 50  
Killed 243

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/89 "2019-09-02T06:25:55Z")

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The death toll for the Odessa shootings has risen to 7.

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/90 "2019-09-02T15:38:28Z")

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[Interesting data point, eh:](https://apnews.com/42014c1117d24ec0a7ebbfb68c68ea67)

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> Saturday’s shooting brings the number of mass killings in the U.S. so far this year to 25, matching the number in all of 2018, according to The AP/USATODAY/Northeastern University mass murder database. The number of people killed this year has already reached 142, surpassing the 140 people who were killed of all last year. The database tracks homicides where four or more people are killed, not including the offender.

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**Post date:** [September 3, 2019, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/91 "2019-09-03T13:24:24Z")

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The Commissioner notes that if you count different things, your count is most like to be different.

An update to #50. A new #51.  
50) 31 August 2019 Odessa TX 7 killed (shot) ([Five killed, including gunman, 21 injured in West Texas shooting | Reuters](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-texas-shooting/two-killed-around-20-injured-in-texas-shooting-media-idUSKCN1VL0SP?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social&__twitter_impression=true&utm_source=reddit.com))  
51) 3 September 2019 Elkmont AL 5 killed (shot) ([Teenager shoots dead five family members in Alabama: police | Reuters](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-shooting-alabama-idUSKCN1VO17K))  
Incidents 51

Killed 251

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/92 "2019-09-14T02:47:07Z")

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At the moment, this seems to meet the single-killer requirement:

1. 13 September 2019 Albuquerque NM 4 killed (shot) ([https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news/police-block-off-neighborhood-in-south-valley/5490060/](https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news/police-block-off-neighborhood-in-south-valley/5490060/))

Incidents 52  
Killed 255

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/93 "2019-09-15T13:44:21Z")

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There is a new #45. DWI by a guy out on parole.

1. 2 August 2019 Buchanan Twp MI 4 killed (Vehicular Homicide/DWI) ([https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/michigan/articles/2019-09-14/man-arraigned-on-murder-charges-in-crash-that-killed-4](https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/michigan/articles/2019-09-14/man-arraigned-on-murder-charges-in-crash-that-killed-4))

Incidents 53  
Killed 259

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/94 "2019-09-16T12:47:38Z")

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> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#):
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> There is a new #45. DWI by a guy out on parole.
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> 1. 2 August 2019 Buchanan Twp MI 4 killed (Vehicular Homicide/DWI) ([https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/michigan/articles/2019-09-14/man-arraigned-on-murder-charges-in-crash-that-killed-4](https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/michigan/articles/2019-09-14/man-arraigned-on-murder-charges-in-crash-that-killed-4))
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> Incidents 53  
> Killed 259

This incident is so sad in so many ways. The drunk parolee had his 15 years his junior wife in the car when he blew past the stop sign. Not only was he criminally stupid, but another pseudo adult was right there allowing this tragedy to happen. People are so lazy/stupid…

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**Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/95 "2019-09-17T02:26:56Z")

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There is a new #44. The Commissioner was waiting for details to become clearer.  
44) 27 July 2019 Layatte & Lake Hallie. WI, 5\* killed (shot) ([Authorities search for answers after Wisconsin man fatally shoots self, 4 others](https://www.grandforksherald.com/news/crime-and-courts/4045713-Authorities-search-for-answers-after-Wisconsin-man-fatally-shoots-self-4-others))  
Incidents 54  
Killed 264

The Commissioner awaits details on the Florida case:

PP) before about 1 September 2019 Marion County FL 5 killed (not reported) ([‘True Evil’: Florida Man Allegedly Killed Wife and Four Kids, Stored Bodies for Weeks](https://news.yahoo.com/true-evil-florida-man-allegedly-221407295.html))

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**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/96 "2019-09-23T15:48:30Z")

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There is a new #53, but the entry is malformed pending an actual date of the killing. Also there is now #56, a wrong way driver who killed himself and three others.

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1. before about 1 September 2019 Marion County FL 5 killed (not reported) ([‘True Evil’: Florida Man Allegedly Killed Wife and Four Kids, Stored Bodies for Weeks](https://news.yahoo.com/true-evil-florida-man-allegedly-221407295.html))
2. 3 September 2019 Elkmont AL 5 killed (shot) ([Teenager shoots dead five family members in Alabama: police | Reuters](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-shooting-alabama-idUSKCN1VO17K))
3. 13 September 2019 Albuquerque NM 4 killed (shot) ([https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news/police-block-off-neighborhood-in-south-valley/5490060/](https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news/police-block-off-neighborhood-in-south-valley/5490060/))
4. 21 September 2019 Baldwin County AL, 4\* killed (vehicular homicide) ([ALEA: Wrong-way driver caused crash that killed 4 people on I-65 southbound | WPMI](https://mynbc15.com/news/local/bcso-responds-to-fatal-crash-on-i-65-southbound))  
Incidents 56

Killed 273

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/97 "2019-09-28T15:19:06Z")

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Details are still coming in.

1. 27 September 2019 Butts County GA, 4 killed (vehicular homicide) ([https://www.cbs46.com/news/killed-by-suspect-fleeing-deputy-pursuit/article\_44cffd02-e197-11e9-b66e-e30dba03b24b.html](https://www.cbs46.com/news/killed-by-suspect-fleeing-deputy-pursuit/article_44cffd02-e197-11e9-b66e-e30dba03b24b.html))

Incidents 57  
Killed 277

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/98 "2019-09-30T13:29:07Z")

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1. 29 September 2019 Beaumont TX 4 killed (shot) ([4 dead in Beaumont shooting](https://www.beaumontenterprise.com/news/article/4-dead-in-Beaumont-shooting-14477286.php))  
Incidents 58  
Killed 281

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**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/99 "2019-10-04T13:38:58Z")

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A new incident. Also a case is pending in Cleveland Ohio. The Commissioner would appreciate any news on this old case:

1. 3 October 2019 San Francisco CA 4\* killed (vehicular homicide/DWI) ([https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/4-killed-in-wrong-way-crash-on-hwy-101-in-san-francisco/](https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/4-killed-in-wrong-way-crash-on-hwy-101-in-san-francisco/))

Incidents 59  
Killed 285  
Pending  
pp) Before 21 September 2019 Cleveland OH, 4 killed (shot) ([https://www.chicagotribune.com/sns-bc-oh--bodies-found-vacant-house-20190927-story.html](https://www.chicagotribune.com/sns-bc-oh--bodies-found-vacant-house-20190927-story.html)) Unsolved, unknown date of killing, unknown number of killers

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2019, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2019/828304/100 "2019-10-05T13:26:44Z")

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1. 5 October 2019 Manhattan, New York NY 4 killed (beaten) ([4 homeless men killed in New York City's Chinatown area, apparently while they slept, police say | CNN](https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/05/us/new-york-homeless-men-killed/index.html))  
Incidents 60  
Killed 289

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