# Mass murder on the high seas (Venezuelan "drug boat")

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 10, 2025, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910 "2025-09-10T13:44:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/301 "2025-12-08T18:33:19Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I don’t subscribe to that CT because it presumes these are actually drug boats and the administration has any real info about their targets.

Yeah. Besides the obvious moral issues just blowing them up means we don’t get much if any information on what they were doing, or anything else. Even in an _actual war_ you try to take prisoners to interrogate.

This is about killing for fun.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/302 "2025-12-08T18:38:26Z")

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ISTM that we have the ability and equipment to seize the vessel and arrest the crew, like we did a few days ago.

> **[20,000-pound cocaine seizure by Coast Guard breaks 18-year-old record](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coast-guard-seizes-cocaine-single-boat-record-pacific-ocean/)**
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> Video shows Coast Guard vehicles pursuing a go-fast vessel that appeared to have multiple people aboard.

But then we wouldn’t get to do this

> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> killing for fun

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/303 "2025-12-08T19:10:29Z")

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If Beavis and Butt-Head ran the US military, it might end up looking something like what were seeing.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/304 "2025-12-08T19:20:09Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> > [@scudsucker](#):
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> > The Romans did spend some time invading England and spreading their language amongst us dirty Anglos and Saxons…
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> Nitpick: it would have been the Britons, not the Angles or Saxons (or Jutes).

Yeah but there were still Romans (or at least Romano-Briton successors to Rome) there when the Angles and Saxons arrived.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/305 "2025-12-08T19:50:36Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> ISTM that we have the ability and equipment to seize the vessel and arrest the crew, like we did a few days ago.

The Coast Guard is good at its job. The Navy is not good at the Coast Guard’s job.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/306 "2025-12-08T20:44:32Z")

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“They were trying to turn the boat back to where it could float. And we didn’t want to see that”

> **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3m7iu2bsyot2t)**
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> Q: Are you ordering Hegseth to release that full video?
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> TRUMP: Whatever he decides is okay with me ... I saw the video. They were trying to turn the boat back to where it could float. And we didn't want to see that because that boat was loaded up...

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0ITft4WIAExBsS?format=jpg&name=medium) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0ITft4WIAExBsS?format=jpg&name=medium)

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/307 "2025-12-08T21:13:53Z")

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Kegsbreath accuses President of treason and demands his execution. The Internet doesn’t forget, mostly.

> **[Hegseth said US military should refuse ‘unlawful’ Trump orders in unearthed...](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/08/hegseth-unlawful-orders-trump-fox-interview)**
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> Defense secretary’s comments recirculating amid dispute over US strikes on alleged drug boats in Caribbean

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/308 "2025-12-10T13:50:37Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/nNxmq-PeAc8/maxresdefault.jpg "Mark Hertling on Caribbean boat strikes: killing people is nothing more than performative politics") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNxmq-PeAc8)

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**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2025, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/309 "2025-12-14T20:20:38Z")

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What an interesting world we live on. The winner of the Nobel Peace Prize supports these strikes.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2025, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/310 "2025-12-14T20:42:18Z")

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> [@Zoobi](#):
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> What an interesting world we live on. The winner of the Nobel Peace Prize supports these strikes

Why wouldn’t she? Her main claim to fame and the reason she won the peace prize is her opposition to Maduro. Trump attacking Maduro’s drug dealing allies hurts Maduro and serves her interests, of course she’d be for it.

The main reasons to oppose Trump’s actions are all domestic. It’s an abuse of his military power, it’s an attack on our nation’s institutions, etc. It’s undoubtedly bad for American democracy, and from the inside where that’s our primary concern, it’s unquestionably bad.

From her perspective, where the situation in Venezuela is of much greater concern than the state of democracy in the United States, there are very few reasons to oppose these strikes.

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**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2025, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/311 "2025-12-14T21:36:58Z")

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It’s just makes the Peace aspect of the prize even more ironic.

But you do you

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2025, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/312 "2025-12-14T23:42:15Z")

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Past winners of the Nobel Peace Prize include Henry Kissinger and Yassar Arafat. And let’s not forget Alfred Nobel only created the Peace Prize after his obituary was prematurely published with the lead “The merchant of death is dead” and he didn’t want to be remembered posthumously for what he was during his lifetime: an arms manufacturer who made his fortune selling weapons to anyone who would buy them.

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**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2025, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/313 "2025-12-14T23:49:05Z")

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Yes I know. We all know.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2026, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/314 "2026-02-12T01:41:17Z")

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Just a friendly reminder: Trump’s seeming super power of committing brand new atrocities every so often (ICE murders, Bad Bunny conniptions) continue to push old atrocities out of the public mind has happened again. He murdered another 2 imagined mules yesterday with nary a peep.

At least we have our first civil suit for wrongful death. Because Og forbid enough Republicans have the fucking balls to stand up to him.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2026, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/315 "2026-02-12T02:54:30Z")

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The very first boat that was struck when it could have been intercepted should have had consequences of some kind. The entire chain of command from Kegbreath to the guy who pushed the button should have been prosecuted for murder, and prosecute trump if he lives through his term.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2026, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/316 "2026-02-12T23:18:19Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> The very first boat that was struck when it could have been intercepted should have had consequences of some kind.

Assuming that free-and-fair elections happen this November (meaning that Democrats will control the House and maybe the Senate, too), they truly will be spoiled for choice when it comes to drawing up the Articles of Impeachment. Not only for Donny, but for Hegseth, Noem, Bondi, etc.

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**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/317 "2026-09-20T03:52:40Z")

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I wanted to apologize for my country once again blowing up another random boat today. The US Navy can’t take other actions short of sinking the boats? Come now! I think they can.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/318 "2026-09-20T04:14:18Z")

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They can just track them from space, and if they approach U.S. waters they can be intercepted. There is then no need the waste whatever weapons they’ve been using to strike the boats when the crew can just be killed with machine gun fire. The boats themselves might actually be salvageable.  
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/319 "2026-09-20T04:19:43Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> They can just track them from space

No, we’d need some sort of Space Force to do that/

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/320 "2026-09-20T08:28:38Z")

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Space Farce

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