# Mass murder on the high seas (Venezuelan "drug boat") **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 10, 2025, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910 "2025-09-10T13:44:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/81 "2025-10-21T16:49:50Z")
Oh, I agree with you. I was just pointing out that it’s been done, and it worked then too. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/82 "2025-10-21T16:51:51Z")
I know, I was just adding to your comment not criticizing it. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/83 "2025-10-21T16:57:57Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > Since fentanyl does not come from Venezuela I think the effect on the fentanyl stats is probably minimal. duh. Tell the administration. “25000 lives saved for every boat sunk!” They should be screaming those numbers of not dead people. Interview them! ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/84 "2025-10-21T16:58:53Z")
That’s their superpower, they are absolutely impervious to those pesky _facts_ ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/85 "2025-10-21T16:59:55Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > That’s their superpower And I have no idea how they do it. We are living in a bad movie. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/86 "2025-10-21T17:01:15Z")
It helps when you have a tailor-made media ecosystem. Sooner or later the facts will catch up to them, the problem is that at that point the storm they created will take all of us with them. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/87 "2025-10-21T18:20:25Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > “If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to do.” > > -JD Vance This right here is why I will always despise this administration. I wish the Haitian community in Springfield could class action this asshole for the misery he caused. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/88 "2025-10-21T18:54:48Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > “If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to do.” > > -JD Vance As a crusty old professor of mine said when I was a student at law school, “‘Rule of Law’ means that the government doesn’t get to make shit up to justify its actions.” I guess that, according to Vance, the United States is no longer a Rule of Law country. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/89 "2025-10-21T20:35:53Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I guess that, according to Vance, the United States is no longer a Rule of Law country. Right wingers don’t believe in the rule of law; they believe in brute force, cruelty and privilege. > Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect. The rule of law is _incompatible_ with conservatism. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/90 "2025-10-22T20:37:08Z")
Looks like the strikes have moved to include the Pacific Ocean. > **[US strikes eighth alleged drug-carrying boat, this time in the Pacific Ocean](https://apnews.com/article/trump-cartels-drug-boat-strike-ffb1b720fa018336316238463924b78a)** > > Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth says the U.S. military has launched its eighth strike against an alleged drug-carrying vessel. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/91 "2025-10-22T21:00:19Z")
From some shitty weekend tv host to a smug, well paid death dealer. **WTF!** ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/92 "2025-10-22T21:03:30Z")
Every Republican that you know, _they_ did this. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/93 "2025-10-22T22:26:22Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Speaking of, is there any indication that drugs entering this country have decreased, at all? Trump is quoted as saying that sinking one of the boats [saved 25,000 lives](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2025/oct/16/donald-trump/US-military-drug-boat-strike-Venezuela-save-25000/), so given that there are around 75,000 drug overdose deaths a year, each boat should represent about a third of the drugs entering the country, so the US should now be drug free for the next 2-3 years. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/94 "2025-10-22T23:18:12Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I found this ironic: > > [Drug Trafficking | United States Sentencing Commission](https://www.ussc.gov/research/quick-facts/drug-trafficking) > > For people sentenced for drug trafficking: > > > 80.4% were United States citizens. No wonder Trump is sinking all those boats. Not only do they bring drugs into the country, they’re taking jobs away from hard-working American drug dealers. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/95 "2025-10-22T23:29:06Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Not only do they bring drugs into the country, they’re taking jobs away from hard-working American drug dealers. [“It’s time to make America cook again!”](https://youtu.be/u-w5wbu7GBE?si=lFTLr58EkBkm13sf&t=1m32s) Stranger ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/96 "2025-10-23T04:23:07Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > The only intelligent option Colombia has is to wait. The drugs don’t belong to the country of Colombia though. They belong to the cartels and cartels have all kinds of options for retaliation. Mass shootings, bombings, kidnappings, assassinations, et cetera. Up to this point, the war on drugs has been won decisively by drugs. Trump isn’t going to do more than just piss them off at which point he will find out he’s not the only one who doesn’t play by the rules. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/97 "2025-10-23T05:39:55Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > Trump isn’t going to do more than just piss them off at which point he will find out he’s not the only one who doesn’t play by the rules. ~~Third~~ ~~Fourth~~ Fifth time’s the charm? ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/98 "2025-10-23T15:20:32Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Trump is quoted as saying that sinking one of the boats [saved 25,000 lives](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2025/oct/16/donald-trump/US-military-drug-boat-strike-Venezuela-save-25000/), so given that there are around 75,000 drug overdose deaths a year, each boat should represent about a third of the drugs entering the country, so the US should now be drug free for the next 2-3 years. That’s called Trump Math. Just like he lowered the cost of prescriptions by 600%, 800%, sometimes 1200%, he’s now lowered OD deaths by 2000%, and that number will only go up. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/99 "2025-10-23T15:48:00Z")
[![](https://i.imgflip.com/zo2dt.jpg) ](https://i.imgflip.com/zo2dt.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/100 "2025-10-23T16:49:13Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > The drugs don’t belong to the country of Colombia though. They belong to the cartels and cartels have all kinds of options for retaliation. That assumes there were any actual drugs on the boats. For all we know Trump has been blowing up fishing boats and the cartels are glad to have them out of the way. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910.md?page=6)