# Mass murder on the high seas (Venezuelan "drug boat") **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 10, 2025, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910 "2025-09-10T13:44:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2025, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/121 "2025-10-25T23:15:42Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Also what are the odds of Congressional approval for a war, rather than Trump just starting one? I’d put that at about a 3% chance of Congress doing anything at all. [Congress? Irrelevant.](https://www.bbc.com/audio/play/p0mbjs2f) > [@](#): > > President Trump says declaration of war on drug cartels by Congress is not needed. Mr Trump said his government is just going to kill people smuggling drugs instead. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/122 "2025-10-26T02:03:38Z")
I don’t think it’s so obvious, bombing almost surely , a full scale invasion not at all. Trump seems to be allergic to things that require continued effort and focus, luckily. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/123 "2025-10-26T12:55:20Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > Trump seems to be allergic to things that require continued effort and focus, luckily. Like marriage? Like rule of law? Like Democracy? ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/124 "2025-10-26T13:22:50Z")
Among other things. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/125 "2025-10-26T15:37:08Z")
Any chance of the ICC charging him with a crime, which could prevent him from traveling to many places? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/126 "2025-10-26T15:43:43Z")
Uh-huh. Who’d _enforce_ that? ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/127 "2025-10-26T16:07:49Z")
Of course, nobody is going to arrest him, but they don’t have to let him land. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2025, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/128 "2025-10-27T13:23:41Z")
It’s time for the Senate Armed Forces Committee to see the intel that led to the murders. If it exists, it can’t be “too sensitive” for them to see. If the intel _doesn’t_ exist, that would be a real problem in a rational timeline. “Trust me bro” is unacceptable. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2025, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/129 "2025-10-27T15:45:49Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > “Trust me bro” is unacceptable. As if Pete Hegseth would even offer that much of a justification. I would expect something more like this: [![](https://gifdb.com/images/thumbnail/i-do-what-i-want-300-x-168-gif-upuvrteq2zdza7hf.gif) ](https://gifdb.com/images/thumbnail/i-do-what-i-want-300-x-168-gif-upuvrteq2zdza7hf.gif) Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2025, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/130 "2025-10-27T16:23:17Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > I don’t think it’s so obvious, bombing almost surely , a full scale invasion not at all. > Trump seems to be allergic to things that require continued effort and focus, luckily. That’s what minions are for. _He_ wouldn’t be the one doing any of the actual work. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/131 "2025-10-28T14:54:07Z")
The murders continue. > **[U.S. strikes 4 more alleged drug boats in the Pacific, killing 14 and leaving...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-boat-strikes-pacific-ocean-hegseth/)** > > The U.S. on Monday struck four more vessels that the Pentagon says were trafficking narcotics in the eastern Pacific Ocean, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth announced. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/132 "2025-10-28T15:50:21Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Of course, nobody is going to arrest him, but they don’t have to let him land. They don’t have to let him land now, either. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/133 "2025-10-30T02:37:41Z")
> **[US warship docks in Trinidad and Tobago, putting more pressure on Venezuela](https://apnews.com/article/trinidad-warship-trump-venezuela-5aba7cf99e78a050556c4ddccc2e6e96)** > > A U.S. warship has docked in Trinidad and Tobago's capital as the Trump administration increases military pressure on Venezuela and its President Nicolás Maduro. > _The arrival of the USS Gravely, a guided missile destroyer, in the capital of the Caribbean nation is in addition to the aircraft carrier USS Gerald R. Ford, which is moving closer to Venezuela. Maduro criticized the movement of the carrier as an attempt by the U.S government to fabricate [“a new eternal war”](https://apnews.com/article/venezuela-warship-maduro-uss-gerald-ford-21cc3ac03f755a657c0541667246c007) against his country._ Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/134 "2025-10-30T03:26:32Z")
Venezuela made the mistake of nationalizing US oil companies’ assets. Now it’s payback. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/135 "2025-10-30T03:30:29Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Venezuela made the mistake of nationalizing US oil companies’ assets. Now it’s payback.. ‘Oh no, not again…’ ~ Smedley Butler; United States Marine Corps, Major General ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/136 "2025-10-30T03:38:25Z")
We’re definitely do for a _Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle_ revival… Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/137 "2025-10-30T03:45:34Z")
Did I unwittingly make a reference? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/138 "2025-10-30T04:01:19Z")
For me it brought back certain memories, > **[Banana Wars | Smedley Butler](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_Wars#Smedley_Butler)** > > Perhaps the single most active military officer in the Banana Wars was US Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler, nicknamed "Maverick Marine", who saw action in Honduras in 1903, served in Nicaragua enforcing American policy from 1909 to 1912, was awarded the Medal of Honor for his role in Veracruz in 1914, and received a second Medal of Honor for bravery in Haiti in 1915. After his forced retirement for making reckless statements, Butler made a career of speaking to left-wing groups denouncin... ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/139 "2025-10-30T17:06:06Z")
“Smedley Butler” is not a cartoon character name? Huh. Wouldn’t have guessed. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2025, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910/140 "2025-11-01T15:42:53Z")
Just a reminder that Trump was in favor of regime change in Venezuela in his first term as well. It’s a good thing there aren’t any mercenaries on the run who could help him invade the country, or at least stir up trouble by being captured. > **[Judge orders arrest of ex-Green Beret accused of plotting to invade Venezuela...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/judge-orders-arrest-green-beret-jordan-goudreau-failed-venezuela-coup/?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us)** > > Jordan Goudreau was arrested last year on weapons smuggling charges tied to the failed coup attempt undertaken during the first Trump administration. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-murder-on-the-high-seas-venezuelan-drug-boat/1022910.md?page=8)