# Mass shooting at Bondi Beach, Australia **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news\ **Created:** [December 14, 2025, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-bondi-beach-australia/1025683 "2025-12-14T09:20:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-bondi-beach-australia/1025683/41 "2025-12-15T00:36:16Z")
Okay, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-bondi-beach-australia/1025683/42 "2025-12-15T00:50:07Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > “He doesn’t drink, he doesn’t smoke, he doesn’t go to bad places” > > See, model citizen. 🙄 _Don’t drink, don’t smoke, what do you do? Subtle innuendos follow There must be something inside_ - Adam and the Ants ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-bondi-beach-australia/1025683/43 "2025-12-15T00:51:31Z")
Good catch 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-bondi-beach-australia/1025683/44 "2025-12-15T00:57:30Z")
Yes, the hero sustained two gunshot wounds, neither serious from what I read. At least one of the shooters had their weapons legally, licensed and all. This is the first mass shooting in Australia since the Port Arthur massacre in 1996, so nearly 30 years. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-bondi-beach-australia/1025683/45 "2025-12-15T01:03:27Z")
> [@Askance](#): > > This is the first mass shooting in Australia since the Port Arthur massacre in 1996, so nearly 30 years. No, there have been 26 such shootings between Port Arthur and Bondi- > **[List of mass shootings in Australia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_Australia)** > > This article is a list of mass shootings in Australia. Mass shootings are firearm-related violence with at least four casualties. Excluded are shootings associated with acts of war, such as the 1944 Cowra breakout, which saw over 200 soldiers killed. Also excluded are massacres of Aboriginal people using firearms, most of which are not well-documented. > The data include casualties of perpetrators, including self-inflicted gunshot or shooting of a perpetrator by police. That treatment of perpet... So almost one a year. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-bondi-beach-australia/1025683/46 "2025-12-15T01:10:42Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > The surviving shooting suspect is described as a model citizen. Note, however not a single mention of any ideological or religious issues; the sort of issues that are almost certainly the motivating factor for a mass killing like this. Mind, she’s his mother; her opinion being “biased” is a given. ---
**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-bondi-beach-australia/1025683/47 "2025-12-15T01:54:06Z")
Oh, and if anyone is reading this in Australia, please go and donate blood today if you can. Even if interstate. Most especially type O. ---
**Author:** ![We\_re\_wolves\_not\_werewolves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@We\_re\_wolves\_not\_werewolves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/We_re_wolves_not_werewolves)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-bondi-beach-australia/1025683/48 "2025-12-15T02:38:02Z")
shooters apparently had ties to islamic state terrorist cell…shocking I know > **[ASIO examined Bondi Beach gunman in 2019 for ties to Islamic State cell](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-12-15/bondi-beach-attack-gunmen-father-and-son/106142630)** > > Australia's domestic intelligence agency, ASIO, examined one of the Bondi Beach gunmen six years ago for his close ties to a Sydney-based Islamic State terrorism cell, the ABC understands. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-bondi-beach-australia/1025683/49 "2025-12-15T02:48:54Z")
Per the article above (early days yet) it was the _son_ who was associated with the terrorist cell, which **may** mean that the radicalization went in the opposite direction than @Babale theorized earlier. [no shade on @Babale, I made the same assumption earlier prior to the reporting] Combine that with the reporting shared by @Jackmannii, that Naveed (the son) was recently unemployed, it seems very possible that we have a perfect storm of the wrong contacts, a stressful, low-hope situation in his economic future, a father who was willing to listen and was licensed, and many lives being ruined as a result. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-bondi-beach-australia/1025683/50 "2025-12-15T03:11:03Z")
> **[Netanyahu lashes out at Albanese over Bondi Beach attack](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-12-15/israels-pm-benjamin-netanyahu-lashes-out-over-bondi-shooting/106142722)** > > In a fiery address overnight, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said "antisemitism is a cancer" and that it "spreads when leaders stay silent". Yeah, when we want advice on how to run a peaceful nation we’ll be sure to get advice from the leader of Israel. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-bondi-beach-australia/1025683/51 "2025-12-15T03:32:33Z")
Moderating: > [@Princhester](#): > > Yeah, when we want advice on how to run a peaceful nation we’ll be sure to get advice from the leader of Israel. Keep politics out of Breaking News threads. Start a new one to discuss if you wish, but don’t start such a discussion here. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-bondi-beach-australia/1025683/52 "2025-12-15T04:10:33Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > By including the language about hijacking, you effectively foreclose further discussion by others who may disagree with you about this topic. That’s a jerk move. Bullshit. If people want to engage they can. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-bondi-beach-australia/1025683/53 "2025-12-15T04:12:42Z")
Moderating: > [@Bullitt](#): > > Bullshit. If people want to engage they can. This is an official Warning for arguing moderation in a thread. You know better than to do this. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-bondi-beach-australia/1025683/54 "2025-12-15T04:37:18Z")
To the rest, we are continuing our discussion about this in PMs. Not here. ---
**Author:** ![MacDoc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/macdoc/32/18696_2.png) [@MacDoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacDoc)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-bondi-beach-australia/1025683/55 "2025-12-15T04:46:08Z")
this is a longer version of the guy tackling the shooter… [https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-12-15/ … /106143864](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-12-15/bondi-beach-shooting-fruit-shop-gunman-hero-parents-speak/106143864) The disarmed guy gained the bridge and was still firing with another gun along with the son. No idea who finally killed the fucker… but the guy who disarmed the attacker had several bullets in the shoulder. One of the better ways to achieve his 15 minutes 🍻 I don’t know guns but the one that was swiped looked like a WWII 303 with extended magazine ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-bondi-beach-australia/1025683/56 "2025-12-15T04:48:40Z")
Easy for you to say. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Finn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@Mark\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mark_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-bondi-beach-australia/1025683/57 "2025-12-15T12:23:03Z")
Even if the shooter (the father) had them legally - why would he need 6 guns? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-bondi-beach-australia/1025683/58 "2025-12-15T13:17:51Z")
> [@Mark\_Finn](#): > > why would he need 6 guns? So he could murder a lot of people in a very short period of time. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-bondi-beach-australia/1025683/59 "2025-12-15T14:10:38Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > Per the article above (early days yet) it was the _son_ who was associated with the terrorist cell, which **may** mean that the radicalization went in the opposite direction than @Babale theorized earlier. > > [no shade on @Babale, I made the same assumption earlier prior to the reporting] Even if the son radicalized the dad (and based on prior similar cases of radicalization in Europe, it is generally seems more common for 2nd and 3rd gen immigrants than their parents) the two of them still had to plan this out, and the dad still had to make the decision that giving his son the guns and doing this with him was a better choice than stopping him from doing this and getting him help (there are organizations for parents who want help to deradicalize their kids). ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-bondi-beach-australia/1025683/60 "2025-12-15T15:15:47Z")
> [@Mark\_Finn](#): > > Even if the shooter (the father) had them legally - why would he need 6 guns? In all seriousness, different guns have different purposes. Different calibers have different purposes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-bondi-beach-australia/1025683.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-bondi-beach-australia/1025683.md?page=4)