# Mass shooting at Buffalo supermarket: 2022-05-14 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news\ **Created:** [May 14, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-buffalo-supermarket-2022-05-14/964438 "2022-05-14T22:48:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-buffalo-supermarket-2022-05-14/964438/1 "2022-05-14T22:48:11Z")
> **[Buffalo's worst mass shooting takes 10 lives, leaves 3 wounded; attack called...](https://buffalonews.com/news/local/ten-killed-in-mass-shooting-at-jefferson-avenue-supermarket-shooter-in-custody/article_6e8132fa-d3b7-11ec-a714-2b3fbeaf848c.html)** > > Ten people were gunned down at a Buffalo supermarket Saturday in a horrifying mass shooting that officials were quick to label as "pure evil" and racially motivated. The shooting stunned Local sheriff says it was racially motivated. White shooter. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-buffalo-supermarket-2022-05-14/964438/2 "2022-05-14T23:18:55Z")
The CNN article also mentions the shooter live streamed the shooting on Twitch. Ugh. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-buffalo-supermarket-2022-05-14/964438/3 "2022-05-14T23:23:01Z")
And according to Reddit at least, they found his “race replacement” manifesto online but it has since been taken down. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-buffalo-supermarket-2022-05-14/964438/4 "2022-05-15T03:08:10Z")
I just finished streaming on twitch a few hours ago (gaming with small group of friends) to catch this horrific news. An 18 year old mass killer, live streaming his wanton slaughter of innocent people, proudly, to strangers on the internet. There’s little information available as of yet, but I think back to my thoughts during the last live-streamed mass killing. > [@Mass shootings at mosques in New Zealand](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shootings-at-mosques-in-new-zealand/831169/72): > > Alt-right edgelords and the “centrists” who defend them should be policed like all other radical extremists, clerics, and terrorist sympathizers. > > “Great replacement,” “White genocide,” “ethnostate,” “race realist,” and all other alarmist, dehumanizing right-wing conspiracies need to be treated as **the violent call-to-arms that they are**. > [@Mass shootings at mosques in New Zealand](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shootings-at-mosques-in-new-zealand/831169/83): > > Preaching alarmist, conspiratorial violence isn’t a fucking game or philosophical exercise. Such people need to be monitored, controlled, demonetized, and restricted **like we do with all other violent extremists**. > > I don’t need to accept targeted acts of, live-streamed, mass slaughterings as just the burden of [del]allowing[/del] enabling profitable, violent speech. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-buffalo-supermarket-2022-05-14/964438/5 "2022-05-15T03:52:32Z")
Apparently, Tucker Carlson has talked about white replacement theory on about 300 of his episodes. [Citation needed]. If that’s true, he’s got a lot to answer for. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-buffalo-supermarket-2022-05-14/964438/6 "2022-05-15T04:52:35Z")
Early in the attack, a store security guard shot the perp but he was wearing body armor so that didn’t work. Then the perp killed the guard. -- Remark I saw in one article on the subject. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-buffalo-supermarket-2022-05-14/964438/7 "2022-05-15T05:43:28Z")
Has anyone else noticed that people aren’t saying that this wouldn’t have happened if the victims had been armed? I can’t imagine why. (sarcasm) 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-buffalo-supermarket-2022-05-14/964438/8 "2022-05-15T06:14:05Z")
_Him_ they take alive? ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-buffalo-supermarket-2022-05-14/964438/9 "2022-05-15T08:23:24Z")
How very like the El Paso shooting in 2019. The killer seems to have driven a long distance to find a large number of the people he hated. I suppose I will go over to the VDare site to see what those fools have to say. Seems part of his drivel was cribbed from the Christchurch killer. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-buffalo-supermarket-2022-05-14/964438/10 "2022-05-15T11:22:40Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > _Him_ they take alive? - He wasn’t holding a cell phone. ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-buffalo-supermarket-2022-05-14/964438/11 "2022-05-15T15:51:37Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > He wasn’t holding a cell phone. Or being Black. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-buffalo-supermarket-2022-05-14/964438/12 "2022-05-15T16:03:31Z")
> [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](#): > > The killer seems to have driven a long distance to find a large number of the people he hated. …who were in a non-death penalty state. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-buffalo-supermarket-2022-05-14/964438/13 "2022-05-15T16:06:10Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > a non-death penalty state Can they get him on Federal charges? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-buffalo-supermarket-2022-05-14/964438/14 "2022-05-15T16:46:27Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > …who were in a non-death penalty state. I don’t have a problem with him getting life in a supermax. 24/7 in a 6x9 cell. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-buffalo-supermarket-2022-05-14/964438/15 "2022-05-15T21:22:15Z")
Anyone have any more details about this: > Gendron threatened an attack at his high school last year, resulting in a referral for a mental health evaluation, a law enforcement official told USA TODAY on Sunday. The incident was reviewed by state authorities at the time. > **[Vigils, prayer services, rallies held across Buffalo after supermarket...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/05/15/buffalo-supermarket-shooting-live-updates/9785004002/)** > > Crowds marched near the Buffalo, New York, store Sunday morning, chanting: "We are mourning, we are hurt." ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-buffalo-supermarket-2022-05-14/964438/16 "2022-05-15T21:36:01Z")
Where did this 18-year-old moron get all this assault gear? He must still live at home if he’s in high school. I wanna hear about his home life. ---
**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-buffalo-supermarket-2022-05-14/964438/17 "2022-05-16T10:22:03Z")
This from blogger [ Heather Cox Richardson ](https://www.facebook.com/heathercoxrichardson? __cft__ %5B0%5D=AZVqik4VwZQ87jjiRgRL51l46_cY56HYk71P8gfsRTmDp2RjtQ7J04lnEADN3gE_nYJS373n9ygEYGXux2T9l_suK9TEV2qkzCiCq9J7_y2hM3HWmlvTHR8GPYRSKbdxopO0-7Xr4jLRYecKJO7IFY66& __tn__ =%2Cd-UC%2CP-R) > Before his attack, the shooter published a 180-page screed on Google Drive. It is mostly a list of his weaponry, but in it he also explained his belief in what is known as the “great replacement theory,” embraced by white nationalists. This is the idea that white people are losing economic, cultural, and political power to Black people and other people of color. The name is usually associated with a French agitator who argued in a 2011 book that immigrants were destroying European culture, but the theory that an “other” is destroying traditional society has roots stretching far back in European history. In the twenty-first century, that theory has launched right-wing political parties and shootings around the world. [https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/15/us/buffalo-supermarket-shooting-sunday/index.html?fbclid=IwAR2yRxR2viVAcrAfLUZ4-Hy9MmI91UQY1Nff2dpsFNVATgDm77C3lX1njFo](https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/15/us/buffalo-supermarket-shooting-sunday/index.html?fbclid=IwAR2yRxR2viVAcrAfLUZ4-Hy9MmI91UQY1Nff2dpsFNVATgDm77C3lX1njFo) ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-buffalo-supermarket-2022-05-14/964438/18 "2022-05-16T14:04:03Z")
We are **[told](https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrEk5dQVIJiWJAAiBhXNyoA;_ylu=Y29sbwNiZjEEcG9zAzIEdnRpZANMT0NVSTA0NV8xBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1652737233/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fwww.foxnews.com%2fus%2fbuffalo-shooting-suspect-payton-gendron-parents-interviewed-feds-supermarket-attack-report/RK=2/RS=7.Qu0g3bhG3jbJVnbgMRpwkIBiI-)** that the parents are “distraught and devastated”. Well, golly. Did the kid buy a car and all those weapons by skimping on lunch money? When dressed in battle-ready gear did Mom say ‘He’s so cute!’. WTF did they think! ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-buffalo-supermarket-2022-05-14/964438/19 "2022-05-16T14:11:17Z")
Now, now, I have it on the authority of a number of other threads that we can only blame the media for covering shit like this not for pouring the gas and throwing matches. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-buffalo-supermarket-2022-05-14/964438/20 "2022-05-16T14:26:17Z")
> [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](#): > > Seems part of his drivel was cribbed from the Christchurch killer. More like both shooters’ drivel were cribbed from right-wing sources. Apart from Carlson (The Daily Show has done a certain amount of work in linking his words to what’s in the manifestos), [Elise Stefanik](https://www.syracuse.com/state/2022/05/what-is-great-replacement-theory-tucker-carlson-elise-stefanik-scrutinized-after-buffalo-shooting.html) is getting dragged currently for her promotion of Great Replacement Theory rhetoric. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-buffalo-supermarket-2022-05-14/964438.md?page=2)