# Mass shooting at Mad Butcher grocery store, 2024-06-21 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news\ **Created:** [June 21, 2024, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-mad-butcher-grocery-store-2024-06-21/1003182 "2024-06-21T22:33:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-mad-butcher-grocery-store-2024-06-21/1003182/1 "2024-06-21T22:33:54Z")
No not in my little village. But very very close. Mass shooting. 11 shot, 3 dead. That’s all I know from the local news. Other outfits have it covered about the same. I never knew Mad Butcher grocery stores were still around. Stinkin’ outrage. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-mad-butcher-grocery-store-2024-06-21/1003182/2 "2024-06-21T22:40:05Z")
Story on CNN – shooter is in custody: > **[Three dead, 10 wounded, in Arkansas grocery store shooting, authorities say |...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/21/us/fordyce-arkansas-shooting/index.html)** > > Three people were killed and 10 wounded in a shooting at a grocery store in Fordyce, Arkansas, the Arkansas State Police said in a news conference Friday. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-mad-butcher-grocery-store-2024-06-21/1003182/3 "2024-06-21T22:52:44Z")
I made the title more explicit, added a date, and added a breaking news tag. ---
**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-mad-butcher-grocery-store-2024-06-21/1003182/4 "2024-06-21T23:05:54Z")
Disregard irrelevancy. ---
**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-mad-butcher-grocery-store-2024-06-21/1003182/5 "2024-06-21T23:27:22Z")
Every shooting is too much. I’ve always been in a decent mood in grocery stores even as an employee there. I surely don’t understand the anger. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-mad-butcher-grocery-store-2024-06-21/1003182/6 "2024-06-21T23:29:27Z")
This is awful. I should be more aware when I go out. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-mad-butcher-grocery-store-2024-06-21/1003182/7 "2024-06-21T23:39:01Z")
How horrible to have that happen so close to home. The guy had a shot gun and just started blasting and amazingly survived a police shootout. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-mad-butcher-grocery-store-2024-06-21/1003182/8 "2024-06-21T23:43:24Z")
To be perfectly honest everyone in Arkansas has a shot gun, at least. But yeah they do plenty of damage. 2 LE were wounded. The local news reports say they are not in serious condition. I’m always fearful in public. Kinda how I am. But the Piggly Wiggly, Mad Butcher etc., made me suck my breath in. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-mad-butcher-grocery-store-2024-06-21/1003182/9 "2024-06-21T23:43:46Z")
A few years back, I recall there was one of those open carry nutjobs who brought his shotgun to a grocery store and decided it was a good time to start racking shells while perusing the frozen food aisle. He didn’t hurt anyone, but it did prompt some discussion about what it meant to be in fear for your life. It seems to me the sound of a shotgun being loaded as you’re trying to decide which Peppridge Farms turnover to get might be somewhat stress inducing. I’m generally a pro 2nd amendment kind of a guy, but my side is going to be in for a rough reality check one of these days if nobody does anything to take care of this problem. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-mad-butcher-grocery-store-2024-06-21/1003182/10 "2024-06-21T23:57:42Z")
I’ve probably seen 1000s of open carry, quietly doing their shopping. Racking a shot-gun is just ridiculous in a store. Someone looking for an argument and a chance to express their stupidity, while armed. Good grief. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-mad-butcher-grocery-store-2024-06-21/1003182/11 "2024-06-22T00:56:04Z")
You might also add a location (Arkansas) to the title. Fordyce, Arkansas is a place almost no one here has heard of since it has a population of 3,400 people and is fairly poor (the median income for a household in the city was $23,000, and the median income for a family was $30,000). > **[Fordyce, Arkansas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fordyce,_Arkansas)** > > Fordyce is a city in southeast Dallas County, Arkansas, United States. Its population has been decreasing since the 1980s when the town reached an all time high of 5,175. The population in 2020 was 3,396 down from 4,300 at the 2010 census, and from 4,799 in 2000. > The city is the county seat, home to the 1911 Dallas County Courthouse. > Within Fordyce there are 19 sites listed on the National Register of Historic Places, including the Fordyce Home Accident Insurance Company. The town was named ... ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-mad-butcher-grocery-store-2024-06-21/1003182/12 "2024-06-22T01:16:32Z")
Home of Bear Bryant. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-mad-butcher-grocery-store-2024-06-21/1003182/13 "2024-06-22T14:10:47Z")
I had my own close call last weekend at the Rochester Hills splash pad shooting. If things had gone just a little bit differently, I, my husband and my son would have been there. I mean we had actually discussed going there that day. It’s a lot harder when it’s close to home. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-mad-butcher-grocery-store-2024-06-21/1003182/14 "2024-06-22T15:26:14Z")
Try that in a small town… ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-mad-butcher-grocery-store-2024-06-21/1003182/15 "2024-06-22T19:46:14Z")
I am surprised. Normally the police shoot the guy repeatedly. Good that they didn’t blast away but considered that other people were present. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-mad-butcher-grocery-store-2024-06-21/1003182/16 "2024-06-22T19:51:11Z")
Once upon a time guys like this would be fast-tracked to a date with the hangman. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-mad-butcher-grocery-store-2024-06-21/1003182/17 "2024-06-22T20:04:40Z")
Yeah. The good old days. When people would get lynched for trying to vote. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-mad-butcher-grocery-store-2024-06-21/1003182/18 "2024-06-22T20:06:18Z")
Explain the link between capital punishment for multiple counts of murder, and terrorism against civil rights. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-mad-butcher-grocery-store-2024-06-21/1003182/19 "2024-06-22T20:06:59Z")
Both involve killing people without due process. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-mad-butcher-grocery-store-2024-06-21/1003182/20 "2024-06-22T20:08:56Z")
That’s a mighty strange definition of due process; but we’re getting off track here. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-mad-butcher-grocery-store-2024-06-21/1003182.md?page=2)