# Mass shooting in at least one mosque, Christchurch NZ **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 15, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-at-least-one-mosque-christchurch-nz/831165 "2019-03-15T02:58:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-at-least-one-mosque-christchurch-nz/831165/1 "2019-03-15T02:58:57Z")
> **[New Zealand terrorist attack leaves 49 dead, more than 40 injured](https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/australasia/article/3001786/schools-shut-down-people-warned-stay-home-after-serious)** > > A rifle-wielding gunman opened fire at two Christchurch mosques on Friday in New Zealand's worst ever mass shooting. A man in his late 20s has been charged with murder. Pretty much what the title says. White supremacist used what looked like an AR-15 with what looks like an Eotech sight and at least one 60 round magazine, to shoot up a bunch of people in a mosque in Christchurch. Local hospitals are claiming 30 or more patients, unconfirmed reports of a shooting at a second mosque. Shitbag supposedly livestreamed the shooting at 8chan. Naturally there’s a manifesto. Im not linking to them. Every piece of right-wing stereotypical hate you can think of, this guy seemed to buy into. His rifle was covered with white marker referencing Charles Martel, 14 Words, you name in. Still on the run, AFAIK. Lots of selfies during his rampage. Hopefully the authorities catch up to him, kill him, and that his demise is painful. Especially before he can hurt anyone else. I also hope we can figure out if he had help, and bring to justice those that helped him with knowledge he was likely to do this ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-at-least-one-mosque-christchurch-nz/831165/2 "2019-03-15T03:03:41Z")
Also, FWIW, a Bangladeshi cricket team, maybe even ‘the’ Bangladeshi National Cricket Team, was about to head to that mosque for prayers, and thankfully heard the commotion before getting involved in the murders. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-at-least-one-mosque-christchurch-nz/831165/3 "2019-03-15T03:03:47Z")
CNN is reporting live about it right now. There was a school shooting in Brazil yesterday, with 8 fatalities. This is just wrong, no matter where it happens or why. ---
**Author:** ![Garak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d78d45/32.png) [@Garak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garak)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-at-least-one-mosque-christchurch-nz/831165/4 "2019-03-15T03:04:21Z")
At the beginning of the video he says “subscribe to PewDiePie” ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-at-least-one-mosque-christchurch-nz/831165/5 "2019-03-15T03:05:59Z")
Fairly early on, so reporting is as yet incomplete. [Two gunmen opened fire in a mosque in Christchurch, New Zealand.](https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12213039) The gunmen opened fire during Friday prayers, in a packed room. One of the gunmen live-streamed the attack, and it appears that the attack was a deliberate terrorist attack. One gunmen has published a 37 page manifesto, to that effect. > [@Scott Stedman](#): > > His manifesto is rife with anti-Muslim sentiments. He is a white supremacist and mentions white birthrates.]His manifesto is rife with anti-Muslim sentiments. He is a white supremacist and mentions white birthrates. [From here.](https://twitter.com/ScottMStedman/status/1106379616921358337) Thus far, it’s only certain that many are injured, and there are expected to be some deaths. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-at-least-one-mosque-christchurch-nz/831165/6 "2019-03-15T03:07:55Z")
Huh. **Gray Ghost** has posted about this. It’s okay to close or merge this thread, as far as I’m concerned. ---
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-at-least-one-mosque-christchurch-nz/831165/7 "2019-03-15T03:07:59Z")
PM due to address the nation any minute now. This is kind of surreal to be honest. Hopefully the AOS gets the shooter soon. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-at-least-one-mosque-christchurch-nz/831165/8 "2019-03-15T03:10:49Z")
[Here’s the NZ Herald coverage.](https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12213039) As it happens, my sister in law is visiting Christchurch right now. We’ve heard from her; she’s fine, and safe. Addendum: Just saw a Facebook post by her: > [@](#): > > Just heard a police statement read on air, which included a request that people do not visit mosques across NZ until further notice. ������������ > This statement above all breaks my heart. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-at-least-one-mosque-christchurch-nz/831165/9 "2019-03-15T03:13:32Z")
I am so sorry. It’s hard to imagine such a horrible thing happening in Christchurch, a lovely, peaceful city as I remember it. The world is in crazy mode for now. I am sick to think of the hand my own country has had in fanning these irrational flames of hatred. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-at-least-one-mosque-christchurch-nz/831165/10 "2019-03-15T03:57:50Z")
wow… has this ever happened in NZ before? ive always thought ti was a rather peaceful place …is the SOB even native? ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-at-least-one-mosque-christchurch-nz/831165/11 "2019-03-15T04:08:15Z")
> [@nightshadea](#): > > wow… has this ever happened in NZ before? There have been incidents before, but never based on ideologies. It’s rare in most western countries, outside of America, and are usually random isolated incidents. But the world has changed in the last fifteen years. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-at-least-one-mosque-christchurch-nz/831165/12 "2019-03-15T04:13:08Z")
> [@nightshadea](#): > > wow… has this ever happened in NZ before? ive always thought ti was a rather peaceful place …is the SOB even native? At least one of the gunmen is described as Australian. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-at-least-one-mosque-christchurch-nz/831165/13 "2019-03-15T04:32:12Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > Huh. **Gray Ghost** has posted about this. It’s okay to close or merge this thread, as far as I’m concerned. Merged two threads. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-at-least-one-mosque-christchurch-nz/831165/14 "2019-03-15T04:36:58Z")
> [@Garak](#): > > At the beginning of the video he says “subscribe to PewDiePie” I think this is becoming the “bababooey” of the current generation. As much as PewDiePie sucks, I’m going to guess that he’s not promoting anything like mosque terrorism or [defacing WWII memorials](https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/pewdiepie-condemns-disgusting-graffiti-after-fan-defaces-war-memorial-in-the-battle-for-subscribers-a4090301.html). (I’m not accusing \*\*Garak \*\*of suggesting that PewDiePie is complicit. Just putting my opinion of the situation out there) ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-at-least-one-mosque-christchurch-nz/831165/15 "2019-03-15T04:38:28Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Merged two threads. Thanks. Another Facebook post by sis-in-law: > [@](#): > > Statement from Police Commissioner, in Wellington. > 4 in custody, 3 male, 1 female. > No confirmation on intent behind the attack. > People In custody were apprehended by local police. > No presumption that this is over. > A number of IEDs on multiple vehicles, defused now by defence force. > No assumption this is limited to Chch, though this how it appears at present. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-at-least-one-mosque-christchurch-nz/831165/16 "2019-03-15T04:49:14Z")
[15 minute report from a CBS News station in New Zealand.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbsW7iOZ4-s) More than 1 mosque. I think I heard 27 dead at one of the mosques. ETA: [AP story here](https://apnews.com/ce9e1d267af149dab40e3e5391254530). EATA: New banner at the AP home site: > [@](#): > > BREAKING NEWS > New Zealand police say 3 men and 1 woman in custody over shootings at 2 mosques in Christchurch No link or story yet tho. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-at-least-one-mosque-christchurch-nz/831165/17 "2019-03-15T04:57:06Z")
If you want a rolling update of news directly in New Zealand: [Stuff.co.nz](https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/111313938/live-coverage-police-attending-evolving-situation-in-christchurch) ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-at-least-one-mosque-christchurch-nz/831165/18 "2019-03-15T05:08:58Z")
This early on in custody can mean a lot of things. Way to early to tell If it’s the perpetrator/perpetrators or people who were acting suspicious that they need to question further. Hopefully we will know soon. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-at-least-one-mosque-christchurch-nz/831165/19 "2019-03-15T05:09:36Z")
My family spent a multi-week vacation in New Zealand (and Australia) when I was a boy. It was a long time ago, but I remember the whole country as being very lovely, including Christchurch in particular. I also remember it as a very peaceful country; I still remember we all marveled at a front-page story in the newspaper, that a police officer had been _slightly wounded_ by someone with a knife, in a completely different part of the country. Shocking that such a thing as this could happen there. So much hatred seems to be spewing up from the depths all over the world. ---
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-at-least-one-mosque-christchurch-nz/831165/20 "2019-03-15T05:16:27Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > Also, FWIW, a Bangladeshi cricket team, maybe even ‘the’ Bangladeshi National Cricket Team, was about to head to that mosque for prayers, and thankfully heard the commotion before getting involved in the murders. It was the national team, who were due to play a Test starting tomorrow, which has now been cancelled. Never thought I’d see a Test match cancelled due to a terrorist attack here in New Zealand. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-at-least-one-mosque-christchurch-nz/831165.md?page=2)