# Mass Shooting in Thousand Oaks, CA **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 8, 2018, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-thousand-oaks-ca/824182 "2018-11-08T08:22:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-thousand-oaks-ca/824182/61 "2018-11-10T11:15:28Z")
> [@Lamoral](#): > > Most of the perpetrators of these attacks are not veterans. Not all veterans have any form of psychological issues and only a minority of those who _do_ have issues would take them out on anyone else. > > I’m not aware of any shooting sprees perpetrated by veterans of World War II, Korea, or Vietnam, all of which produced far more veterans than the “War on Terror.” And I can’t even think of any other mass shooters in the past decade who are veterans, besides this one guy being discussed here. There’s been a whole menagerie of disturbed individuals with varying backgrounds and ages, but military service doesn’t appear to be a common factor at all. I never suggested that most mass shooters were veterans - not sure how you reached that conclusion. The point is that there are probably hundreds of thousands of veterans who have returned home from the prolonged unimaginable stress of life or death combat, and I seriously doubt all of them have been provided the resources they need. It’s not surprising that this happens; it’s perhaps surprising that more returning vets haven’t snapped. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-thousand-oaks-ca/824182/62 "2018-11-10T11:55:47Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Is it bad that my second response this morning (after “Oh, fuck”) was “I hope the shooter is white”? Yes. It’s thoroughly racist. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-thousand-oaks-ca/824182/63 "2018-11-12T13:34:59Z")
So, is there any word yet on this guy’s motives? Was he screaming things during the attack? Leave a manifesto behind? Have some unconventional ideas that he shared with family and friends? Prior background with this nightclub? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-thousand-oaks-ca/824182/64 "2018-11-12T15:18:33Z")
[https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1958013002](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1958013002) ---
**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-thousand-oaks-ca/824182/65 "2018-11-12T15:41:31Z")
I quickly googled “oakland shooting” because I had forgotten this was the Thousand Oaks shooting, and I got news about ANOTHER mass shooting, just this weekend, in Oakland. It wasn’t in the news because only 5 men were wounded. > **[Five men wounded in Oakland shootings](https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2018/11/11/five-men-wounded-in-oakland-shootings/)** > > Three members of a security team at an Old Oakland nightclub were among five men shot in Oakland Saturday night and Sunday morning, authorities said. Only in Amerika. By the way, we in the Netherlands have the same problem, but with industrialised cattle farming. Zoonosis diseases keep spreading ( Q-fever killed 70 Dutch people) and almost every week another stable burns down, with the animals inside mostly dying a gruesome death. Yet no-one wants to give up cheap meat so nothing happens. ( while a raise of only 50 % of the price of meat would make it sustainable…) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-in-thousand-oaks-ca/824182.md?page=3)