# Massive flooding in Texas; 20 children missing from a summer camp **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 4, 2025, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/massive-flooding-in-texas-20-children-missing-from-a-summer-camp/1020512 "2025-07-04T21:50:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 99
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/massive-flooding-in-texas-20-children-missing-from-a-summer-camp/1020512/99 "2025-07-07T20:45:38Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Article doesn’t say the time of the warning. An article which @LSLGuy just posted in [a thread in the Pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281/212) contains this (emphasis mine): > [@](#): > > NWS staff both nationally and at the local field office between San Antonio and Austin performed admirably, giving all the heads up you’d expect for a hyper-local event like this. Flood Watches were hoisted over 12 hours in advance of the start of the flooding and flash flood warnings were issued hours before the worst hit. The “considerable” tag the NWS office added to these early warnings also would’ve triggered Wireless Emergency Alerts to cell phones in the area (for those able to receive them). **The early warnings were followed up with more extreme flood alerts, including a Flash Flood Emergency for parts of Kerr County, including Hunt, at 4:03 AM CT.** That last Emergency warning is likely the one which the Guardian article quoted. Also, as far as staffing and staff cuts, the same article notes: > [@](#): > > Though many [local NWS field offices are short-staffed](https://michaelrlowry.substack.com/p/noaa-eyes-another-active-hurricane) from DOGE-directed cuts and compelled early resignations, the local field office in New Braunfels implemented what they call “surge staffing” – a standard NWS protocol when severe weather is anticipated – leading up to the event. This means the office actually had more staff working the event than it would’ve on more typical weather days, upping its on-duty staff from two to five ahead of the storms, [according to the Associated Press](https://apnews.com/article/texas-floods-hill-country-weather-warnings-238d4325bb58f0b410015f74684738b6). > **[Trying to Make Sense of the Unspeakable Texas Tragedy](https://michaelrlowry.substack.com/p/trying-to-make-sense-of-the-unspeakable)** > > Catastrophic flooding in the Texas Hill Country over the holiday weekend is one of the deadliest in modern memory. How did it happen? --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/massive-flooding-in-texas-20-children-missing-from-a-summer-camp/1020512)._