# Massive voter fraud in the US - where's the investigation? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 24, 2017, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/massive-voter-fraud-in-the-us-wheres-the-investigation/778023 "2017-01-24T12:13:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/massive-voter-fraud-in-the-us-wheres-the-investigation/778023/261 "2017-05-13T01:11:26Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > I don’t have too much of an opinion one way or another on the issue of non-citizens voting, but I don’t see how your observation is relevant. The one man one vote concept is\*\* usually understood \*\*to apply only to an individual election. A person can vote in multiple elections without losing the concept of one man one vote. Its not as if there is some World governing body that would mean that my voting in both Zambia’s and the United States’ federal election would give me more than my fair share of influence, any more than voting in the America’s next model prevents me from voting for the MVP of a football game. Bolding mine. I doubt Zambia would invite you to vote in their election. Can you imagine? Election tourism! Vote for our guy and your trip is free! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/massive-voter-fraud-in-the-us-wheres-the-investigation/778023/262 "2017-05-13T01:44:10Z")
Hey, a free trip to Zambia! Wow! Far out! No! ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/massive-voter-fraud-in-the-us-wheres-the-investigation/778023/263 "2017-05-13T06:18:17Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > Because they are not citizens. They get to vote in their own elections “back home”. > [@adaher](#): > > I think that’s a good argument, however, we need to maintain the concept of “one man, one vote, one place”, which is impossible if people are eligible to vote in other nations’ elections. FYI, naturalized citizens (and natural-born citizens) are often eligible to vote in other nations’ elections. The naturalization process does not require the new citizen to give up the old citizenship, and the USA does not require its citizens to refrain from voting in other countries. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/massive-voter-fraud-in-the-us-wheres-the-investigation/778023/264 "2017-05-13T06:40:25Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I think that’s a good argument, however, we need to maintain the concept of “one man, one vote, one place”, which is impossible if people are eligible to vote in other nations’ elections. There’s also the allegiance issue, just because you pay taxes somewhere doesn’t mean you are more loyal to the country you pay taxes in than your home country. I’m a dual citizen - native US, naturalized Australia. I can vote in elections in both countries\*, and it never even occurred to me that I wouldn’t be able to vote in both. \*Actually, required to vote in Australia, or at least to attend the polling station. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/massive-voter-fraud-in-the-us-wheres-the-investigation/778023.md?page=13)