# Master and Slave: Non "PC"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-and-slave-non-pc/215432>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 26, 2003, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-and-slave-non-pc/215432 "2003-11-26T18:11:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-and-slave-non-pc/215432/81 "2003-11-27T15:13:18Z")

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Was he pulling the rods at the time? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Computer\_Guru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed655f/32.png) [@Computer\_Guru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Computer_Guru)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-and-slave-non-pc/215432/82 "2003-11-27T15:18:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Dob \*  
> \*\*From CNN:
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> [Master and Slave](http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/11/26/master.term.reut/index.html)
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> Holy fucking crap! At what point in this country did we turn into such a bunch of sensitve a-holes? Who the hell files a complaint on a tech term that has NOTHING to do with race??
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> Should I request that Nabisco stop calling there product crackers?? Next time I see a sign at my local salad bar saying “Crackers with salad” should I post a complaint???
> 
> Good God, what a dumbass. \*\*

Doesn’t Master and Slave have something to do with Networks. I remember hearing that term before, but I can’t remember where.

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**Author:** ![Computer\_Guru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed655f/32.png) [@Computer\_Guru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Computer_Guru)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-and-slave-non-pc/215432/83 "2003-11-27T15:24:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Computer Guru \*  
> \*\*Doesn’t Master and Slave have something to do with Networks. I remember hearing that term before, but I can’t remember where. \*\*

Nevermind. Just has to do with multiple harddrives and stuff. However, I just still have this faint memory of it being used in networking also, and maybe also ram and harddrive. I guess it’s used a lot.  
I see nothing wrong with these term. It was named for this because that’s the way it works. Nothing racist or discrimitory about it.

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**Author:** ![KarmaComa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e36b37/32.png) [@KarmaComa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarmaComa)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-and-slave-non-pc/215432/84 "2003-11-27T16:57:19Z")

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I suppose Wal-Mart will be pulling all of its Depeche Mode CDs any minute now. 🙂

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**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-and-slave-non-pc/215432/85 "2003-11-27T17:55:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ArrMatey! \*  
> \*\*I hate to say this, but the local school district already has. “Chalkboards.” By memo request.
> 
> Shoot me. \*\*

My elementary school did that 20 years ago. Not out of PC concerns, but because all the “blackboards” were green 🙂

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**Author:** ![Dob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Dob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dob)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-and-slave-non-pc/215432/86 "2003-11-27T18:31:55Z")

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You know what the messed up part really is?? How many black people work in the IT field? Miliions? Hundred of thousands? For how many years? 30-40? And not a ONE of them has ever brought this issue up?

Then some dumbass who is not even in the field raises the complaint?? It might not piss me off so much if it was IT African-Americans.

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**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-and-slave-non-pc/215432/87 "2003-11-27T20:56:03Z")

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How about redesignating them to ‘chair’ and ‘shareholder’?

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**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-and-slave-non-pc/215432/88 "2003-11-28T00:16:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Dob \*  
> \*\*You know what the messed up part really is?? How many black people work in the IT field? Miliions? Hundred of thousands? For how many years? 30-40? \*\*

Not that this whole mess isn’t absurd or anything, but it should be noted that IDE and the [master/slave](http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/ide4.htm) designations that go with it weren’t introduced until [1986.](http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/ide1.htm) So that’s only 17 years of nobody caring. Still, your point stands.

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**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-and-slave-non-pc/215432/89 "2003-11-28T02:49:14Z")

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I have to admit that when I read the headline, the whole “White master/Black slave” connection didn’t even enter my mind. The only thing I could think was, “Jesus, someone got offended and is connecting it to BDSM?”

Shows you where _my_ mind is. 😉

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-and-slave-non-pc/215432/90 "2003-11-28T03:28:39Z")

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> **Computer Guru** said:  
> Nevermind. Just has to do with multiple harddrives and stuff. However, I just still have this faint memory of it being used in networking also, and maybe also ram and harddrive. I guess it’s used a lot.

There is one master device on a Bluetooth network. All other devices are slaves. When that master leaves the network, the slaves renegotiate a new master.

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**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-and-slave-non-pc/215432/91 "2003-11-28T05:30:18Z")

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> Originally posted by \*\*Dob \*\*  
> … At what point in this country did we turn into such … Who the … files a complaint on a tech term that has NOTHING to do with race?? …

from the people that pushed for freedom fries? it can only go down hill from there.

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**Author:** ![Dob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Dob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dob)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-and-slave-non-pc/215432/92 "2003-11-28T16:15:09Z")

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I stand correct **Neutron Star** thanks!

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-and-slave-non-pc/215432/93 "2003-11-28T16:38:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by catsix \*  
> \*\*There is one master device on a Bluetooth network. All other devices are slaves. When that master leaves the network, the slaves renegotiate a new master. \*\*

What happens if a carpetbagger shows up?

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**Author:** ![umop\_ap\_sdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/dbc845/32.png) [@umop\_ap\_sdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/umop_ap_sdn)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-and-slave-non-pc/215432/94 "2003-11-28T17:49:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by pravnik \*  
> \*\*Shit, that’s nothing. The city council of a town here in Texas directed all city employees to start answering the phone “Heaven-o” instead of the traditional “hello”. \*\*

If they tried to start that crap where I live, I’d be tempted to call up 4-1-1 and ask for heavenp in finding a heaventh food store. Tell them I wish I had a heavenicopter, but then the store would need a heavenipad or else parking would be heaventer-skeaventer.

Show 'em how ridiculous they are. 😃

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-and-slave-non-pc/215432/95 "2003-11-28T18:45:53Z")

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> **Bryan Ekers** asked:  
> What happens if a carpetbagger shows up?

To be unamusingly literal, when a device joins or leaves the bluetooth network, the devices renegotiate for a master.

The device with the most capabilities becomes the master, and all the other devices are slaves.

If Mr. Carpetbagger has the most capabilities, he’s the new master.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-and-slave-non-pc/215432/96 "2003-11-28T21:07:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by catsix \*  
> \*\*If Mr. Carpetbagger has the most capabilities, he’s the new master. \*\*

Damn yankees.

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**Author:** ![Algorithm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/algorithm/32/12204_2.png) [@Algorithm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algorithm)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2003, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-and-slave-non-pc/215432/97 "2003-11-29T03:32:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by matt\_mcl \*  
> \*\*It’s a lot like life… \*\*

Just thought I’d let you know that someone did get the reference. I’ve seen them live, too.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2003, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-and-slave-non-pc/215432/98 "2003-11-29T04:11:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Bryan Ekers \*  
> \*\*Damn yankees. \*\*

You offend me, sir. I was born and raised in New Albany, OH. and now reside in Gallatin, TN. The term “damn yankee” has been bandied about the native born majority as a slur against folks such as myself, and as an excuse for mistreating those of us Notherners who have relocated to the South. I demand an apology.😉

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