# Master Wang-Ka - The NJ Supreme Court is with you! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 10, 2017, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-wang-ka-the-nj-supreme-court-is-with-you/788558 "2017-06-10T01:12:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-wang-ka-the-nj-supreme-court-is-with-you/788558/1 "2017-06-10T01:12:05Z")
As [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=4600087#post4600087)has been closed\*, I am opening one here to make sure M W-K sees this. You are fine, at least to the line of your own property. Just in case it should ever come up again: [Second Amendment right to meet people at the door with a machete by your side?](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/06/09/second-amendment-right-to-meet-people-at-the-door-with-a-machete-by-your-side/?utm_term=.d18c1dbab2ed&wpisrc=nl_volokh&wpmm=1) . . . . . . . \*The uninitiated will want to scroll down to Post 31 ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-wang-ka-the-nj-supreme-court-is-with-you/788558/2 "2017-06-10T01:34:03Z")
The umbrella stand by our front door holds a broadsword, a katana, and two battle axes. The only people welcome at the door are Amazon delivery people and Girl Scouts bearing cookies. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-wang-ka-the-nj-supreme-court-is-with-you/788558/3 "2017-06-10T01:51:45Z")
There’s also the guy who mows my lawn, he’s welcome. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-wang-ka-the-nj-supreme-court-is-with-you/788558/4 "2017-06-10T02:41:06Z")
I have lived in my present home for 25 years. In that time, I have had two (2) people that I did not know or expect come to my door. One had a rifle strapped to his back. The other? Fucking Jehovahs. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-wang-ka-the-nj-supreme-court-is-with-you/788558/5 "2017-06-10T02:53:29Z")
Who was more welcome and why? ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-wang-ka-the-nj-supreme-court-is-with-you/788558/6 "2017-06-10T08:01:01Z")
It’s a great story and also good to know what’s OK to weild when you open the door in your undies,however, upon reading the article you learn that : > [@](#): > > Individuals may possess in their homes objects that serve multiple lawful purposes, including the purpose of anticipatory self-defense. In this case, Montalvo possessed at home a machete he used in his roofing job. He was lawfully entitled to possess that machete as a weapon in his home as a means of defending himself and his family from attack as well. The right to possess that weapon, however, does not mean that it can be used without justification. > > An individual who responds to the door of his home with a concealed weapon that threatens no one acts within the bounds of the law. He need give no justification for what he is lawfully allowed to do. > > On the other hand, an individual may not threaten another with a weapon, even within the confines of his home, without lawful justification. Thus, Montalvo could not answer the door threatening the use of a machete merely for the purpose of inciting fear in another. He could threaten the use of the machete, however, if he had a sincere or reasonable belief that the show of such force was necessary to protect himself or his wife from an imminent attack. So, don’t do it too much. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-wang-ka-the-nj-supreme-court-is-with-you/788558/7 "2017-06-10T14:18:07Z")
Much as I enjoyed the Master’s story, it’s likely that not even the NJ Supreme Court\* would sanction pursuing annoying proselytizers out into your yard waving a sword and howling incoherently while less than appropriately dressed.\*\* 🙂 \*Might be another story in Texas. \*\*At the very least, he should have been wearing a bowler hat. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-wang-ka-the-nj-supreme-court-is-with-you/788558/8 "2017-06-10T14:27:33Z")
It’s time to update Clue. ---
**Author:** ![blindboyard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindboyard/32/2833_2.png) [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-wang-ka-the-nj-supreme-court-is-with-you/788558/9 "2017-06-10T14:57:14Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > The umbrella stand by our front door holds a broadsword, a katana, and two battle axes. Mine holds my pint. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-wang-ka-the-nj-supreme-court-is-with-you/788558/10 "2017-06-10T16:23:53Z")
Too bad MWK had to grow up and get all civilized. His stories of maladjusted nerds were epic. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-wang-ka-the-nj-supreme-court-is-with-you/788558/11 "2017-06-10T16:24:20Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > The umbrella stand by our front door holds a broadsword, a katana, and two battle axes. The only people welcome at the door are Amazon delivery people and Girl Scouts bearing cookies. Amazons can be dangerous. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-wang-ka-the-nj-supreme-court-is-with-you/788558/12 "2017-06-10T18:05:27Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Too bad MWK had to grow up and get all civilized. His stories of maladjusted nerds were epic. He was last logged in here 8 days ago. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-wang-ka-the-nj-supreme-court-is-with-you/788558/13 "2017-06-10T20:07:47Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > The umbrella stand by our front door holds a broadsword, a katana, and two battle axes. The only people welcome at the door are Amazon delivery people and Girl Scouts bearing cookies. I sincerely hope your umbrella stand is in fact a fired artillery shell. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/master-wang-ka-the-nj-supreme-court-is-with-you/788558/14 "2017-06-21T03:16:18Z")
As [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=4600087#post4600087)has been closed\*, I am continuing this current one here to make sure M W-K sees this. [Good Samaritan with sword helped catch suspect](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ropOS--hD_I&t=61s). (Yes, it was in Florida!)