# Masturbatory "I AM SO SMRT" thread.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masturbatory-i-am-so-smrt-thread/438907>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 24, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masturbatory-i-am-so-smrt-thread/438907 "2008-02-24T02:03:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![1010011010](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/ea666f/32.png) [@1010011010](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/1010011010)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masturbatory-i-am-so-smrt-thread/438907/1 "2008-02-24T02:03:19Z")

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Inspired by [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=457148) and specifically [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9507678&postcount=48) by **Tamerlane**.

What results do you get from this [IQ conversion](http://www.davidpbrown.co.uk/psychology/iq-conversion.html)? How do the calculated results compare to the real results you might have from other IQ tests?

Input data in **bold** …

IQ Stanford-Binet: 160, 158, 143  
IQ Cattell:190, 187, 165  
IQ Wechsler:156, 154, **140**  
Standard deviation:3.75, **3.62** , 2.68  
GRE(V+Q):1567, 1544, 1367  
SAT(\<95): **1520** , 1501, 1356  
Percentile:99.99, 99.98, 99.63  
Rarity (1/X):10000, 5000, 270

What I find interesting is that the same year (early highschool) I overheard the 140 IQ figure, I also took the PSAT… and got a 1360.

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**Author:** ![robardin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/43a26b/32.png) [@robardin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robardin)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2008, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masturbatory-i-am-so-smrt-thread/438907/2 "2008-02-24T03:57:56Z")

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Of all the input tests, I only ever took the SAT, pre-1995. And the PSAT a year or so before that (I no longer remember the point of the PSAT – I think it was also an NMSQT, National Merit Scholarship Qualification Test?). I scored a 1510 on the PSAT (well, a 73/78 verbal/math), and a 1460 on the “actual” SAT later (730/730).

According to that page, a 1460 SAT score converts to:

IQ Stanford-Binet: 154  
IQ Cattell: 181  
IQ Wechsler: 151  
Standard deviation: 3.37  
GRE(V+Q): 1496  
SAT(\<95): 1460  
Percentile: 99.96  
Rarity (1/X): 2500

I took a free online IQ test once (at a site linked to from the first thread I read on what I would later realize is a recurring topic on the SDMB) that rated me a 140 or something like that, and called me a Visionary Thinker or somesuch glorious sounding title, describing me as exceptional in many different dimensions and good at synthesizing across them. Then it wanted me to give them something on the order of $30 to obtain a detailed report explaining why. Ho ho ho, was “frivolous ego-stroking gullibility” one of the dimensions they’re looking for (and selling to an email list)? 🙂

It’s nice to feel special looking at numbers and descriptions like this, but then one gets on with doing things in life. Ever since I was in the 7th grade, when I got into a “gifted and talented” school program, I’ve always been surrounded by people I consider equally or more smart/intelligent in various ways.

The bottom line is, it’s what what does with one’s talents that really counts.

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**Author:** ![ErinPuff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dbc845/32.png) [@ErinPuff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ErinPuff)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2008, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masturbatory-i-am-so-smrt-thread/438907/3 "2008-02-24T04:06:10Z")

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I put my GRE score in, since I took the SAT after 1995. I got a 1470 on the SAT as well (distributed differently: verbal/math 730/740 SAT, 700/770 GRE). I’ve had my IQ tested, but my parents never told me what I got, and I don’t really want to know.

IQ Stanford-Binet: 152  
IQ Cattell: 178  
IQ Wechsler: 159  
Standard deviation: 3.25  
GRE(V+Q): **1470**  
SAT(\<95): 1443  
Percentile: 99.94  
Rarity (1/X): 1667

Looks like I’m the dumbest person in the thread so far! 😃

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2008, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masturbatory-i-am-so-smrt-thread/438907/4 "2008-02-24T04:24:53Z")

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I never took any of those tests but I did take a state sponsored IQ test in elementary school and scored a 127 but have no idea which of the three I took and my understanding is that they’re based on age, anyway, and I’m betting I am much closer to the median 15 years later.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2008, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masturbatory-i-am-so-smrt-thread/438907/5 "2008-02-24T04:46:29Z")

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That converter is pretty cool. I took both the Stanford-Binet and the Cattell. I always wondered why the scores were so different but according to this they’re exactly equivalent. Likewise, my SAT & GRE scores are equivalent (apparently, I got only very slightly smarter between elementary school and high school).

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2008, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masturbatory-i-am-so-smrt-thread/438907/6 "2008-02-24T06:30:47Z")

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How does SAT score equate in anyway to IQ scores? Is it just a guess? As far as I know I never took an IQ test so the only thing I could input is the pre 95 SAT score.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2008, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masturbatory-i-am-so-smrt-thread/438907/7 "2008-02-24T06:46:12Z")

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SAT correlates with parental SES, which correlates with standardized IQ testing.

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**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2008, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masturbatory-i-am-so-smrt-thread/438907/8 "2008-02-24T06:56:12Z")

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Ehh. I place zero values in these conversions to IQ, because I took the ACT about as drunk as I am now, and scored a 31, and the GRE about as hungover as I’ll be tomorrow morning, and scored just under 1300. I still think my IQ is 199, just like the online ads told me!

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**Author:** ![beanpod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9adbd/32.png) [@beanpod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beanpod)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2008, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masturbatory-i-am-so-smrt-thread/438907/9 "2008-02-24T16:25:37Z")

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What’s the deal with pre-1995 and post-1995 SAT scores? I know they added a new section or something a few years ago (that I narrowly escaped, woot!) but I don’t know anything about this.

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2008, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masturbatory-i-am-so-smrt-thread/438907/10 "2008-02-24T17:03:44Z")

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Might as well just use [this site](http://www.convert-me.com/en/convert/length) to brag about Doper penis lengths.

“I’m 3.222e-17 light years long!”  
“Yeah, well I’m 810.6 didot points long!”

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![1010011010](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/ea666f/32.png) [@1010011010](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/1010011010)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2008, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masturbatory-i-am-so-smrt-thread/438907/11 "2008-02-25T04:59:01Z")

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[QUOTE=beanpod]  
What’s the deal with pre-1995 and post-1995 SAT scores? I know they added a new section or something a few years ago (that I narrowly escaped, woot!) but I don’t know anything about this.  
[/QUOTE]  
“In April 1995, the College Board recentered the score scales for all tests in the SAT Program to reflect the contemporary test-taking population.” [linky](http://professionals.collegeboard.com/data-reports-research/sat/equivalence-tables)

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2008, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masturbatory-i-am-so-smrt-thread/438907/12 "2008-02-25T05:03:21Z")

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[QUOTE=elmwood]  
Might as well just use [this site](http://www.convert-me.com/en/convert/length) to brag about Doper penis lengths.

“I’m 3.222e-17 light years long!”  
“Yeah, well I’m 810.6 didot points long!”

:rolleyes:  
[/QUOTE]

Mines 4 inches…from the ground.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2008, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masturbatory-i-am-so-smrt-thread/438907/13 "2008-02-25T05:13:32Z")

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I was given a test in seventh grade, scored 184, but I have no idea what the test was or what the number means. I presume it was whatever the most common, “standard” such test would’ve been in like 1974, but again no idea.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2008, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masturbatory-i-am-so-smrt-thread/438907/14 "2008-02-25T16:34:00Z")

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I only have the SAT, and I seriously doubt that the SAT is in any way an accurate predicter of intelligence.

IQ Stanford-Binet: 157

IQ Cattell: 186

IQ Wechsler: 153

Standard deviation: 3.56

GRE(V+Q): 1532

SAT(\<95): 1490

Percentile: 99.8

Rarity (1/X): 5000

Clearly, the IQ scores are ridiculously inflated. Also, it doesn’t ask what year you took the SAT in, and I know that’s a test that has been renormed more than once.

ETA - Oh, I didn’t catch what that 95 thing meant - if they’d put the whole year that would be helpful. I took it both before and after 95, I’m not sure which one my score is from.

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masturbatory-i-am-so-smrt-thread/438907/15 "2008-02-25T16:43:26Z")

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“Smrt” means “death” in Czech.

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**Author:** ![TroubleAgain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@TroubleAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroubleAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2008, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masturbatory-i-am-so-smrt-thread/438907/16 "2008-02-25T17:58:33Z")

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[QUOTE=gonzomax]  
Mines 4 inches…from the ground.  
[/QUOTE]

So you have really short legs? 😃

I’ve never seen the conversion from pre-95 to post. Interesting.

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**Author:** ![1010011010](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/ea666f/32.png) [@1010011010](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/1010011010)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masturbatory-i-am-so-smrt-thread/438907/17 "2008-02-27T02:31:19Z")

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[QUOTE=pravnik]  
“Smrt” means “death” in Czech.  
[/QUOTE]  
Well, imagine this thread is about autoerotic asphyxiation gone too far, then.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masturbatory-i-am-so-smrt-thread/438907/18 "2008-02-27T02:51:02Z")

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I was about to ask “Why would anyone actually post their scores in this thread?”. And then I remembered how simultaneously arrogant and insecure I used to be when I was in my late teens/early twenties.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masturbatory-i-am-so-smrt-thread/438907/19 "2008-02-27T03:15:02Z")

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I’m so smart that if my IQ and Chuck Norris went up against each other in a cage match…

Chuck Norris would rip my IQ’s throat out and eat it for breakfast. Come on, it’s Chuck Norris.

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**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/masturbatory-i-am-so-smrt-thread/438907/20 "2008-02-27T05:32:55Z")

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For what it’s worth, I’ve taken four of the tests listed. Entering any of them gives me the correct value for the other three within about 4 percent. Coincidence? Could be.

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