# Math: .99repeating = 1?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/math-99repeating-1/11021>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [April 12, 2000, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/math-99repeating-1/11021 "2000-04-12T13:59:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Flat\_U.Lance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90db22/32.png) [@Flat\_U.Lance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flat_U.Lance)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/math-99repeating-1/11021/1 "2000-04-12T13:59:00Z")

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Is the repeating decimal .9999999 equal to 1?  
.33333 repeating is equal to one third.  
.6666 repeating is equal to two thirds.  
.333333 + .66666 = 1  
Some math nerds like bigneck say that .9999 repeating is not equal to 1.

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Don’t listen to bigneck.

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**Author:** ![bigneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6f9a4e/32.png) [@bigneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bigneck)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/math-99repeating-1/11021/2 "2000-04-12T14:26:00Z")

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Flat,  
.87632 = .87632  
17 = 17  
1 = 1  
.99999999 = .99999999

you = dork

bigneck

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**Author:** ![AWB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@AWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AWB)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/math-99repeating-1/11021/3 "2000-04-12T14:27:00Z")

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Yes, it’s the same. E.g.,  
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Fractions:  
2/7 + 5/7 = 7/7 = 1  
Decimals:

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0.285714 + 0.714285 = 0.999999

Fractions:  
2/9 + 7/9 = 9/9 = 1  
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0.2 + 0.7 = 0.9

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**Author:** ![AWB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@AWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AWB)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/math-99repeating-1/11021/4 "2000-04-12T14:28:00Z")

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\*\*AAUUGGHH! I fed the trolls! Now they’ll proliferate!

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**Author:** ![bigneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6f9a4e/32.png) [@bigneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bigneck)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/math-99repeating-1/11021/5 "2000-04-12T14:29:00Z")

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Flat,  
.87632 = .87632  
17 = 17  
1 = 1  
.99999999 = .99999999

you = dork

bigneck

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**Author:** ![bigneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6f9a4e/32.png) [@bigneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bigneck)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/math-99repeating-1/11021/6 "2000-04-12T14:31:00Z")

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Sorry for posting that last one twice - if I did. Actually, .333333 + .66666 = .999993

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**Author:** ![handy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@handy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handy)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/math-99repeating-1/11021/7 "2000-04-12T14:38:00Z")

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We already answered this one down below.

What is it with the logic people anyway?

1 does not & is not a 9 period.

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**Author:** ![Flat\_U.Lance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90db22/32.png) [@Flat\_U.Lance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flat_U.Lance)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/math-99repeating-1/11021/8 "2000-04-12T14:41:00Z")

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Hey Handy, where was this answered before?

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**Author:** ![RussellM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed8c4c/32.png) [@RussellM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RussellM)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/math-99repeating-1/11021/9 "2000-04-12T14:47:00Z")

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zero point…repeating

Russell

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**Author:** ![RussellM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed8c4c/32.png) [@RussellM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RussellM)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/math-99repeating-1/11021/10 "2000-04-12T14:55:00Z")

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Last discussed [Is 0.999…=1 ?](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/007229.html)

The last entry in this thread was only 5 days ago.

Russell

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/math-99repeating-1/11021/11 "2000-04-12T15:00:00Z")

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Another way to approach this, is that .99999… = SUM (9\*10^-n) as n --\> infinity.

It can easily be shown that this infinite sum is 1.

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/math-99repeating-1/11021/12 "2000-04-12T16:04:00Z")

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CKDExtHavn, you sound like Fermat in your last post.

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**Author:** ![Jinx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Jinx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jinx)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2000, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/math-99repeating-1/11021/13 "2000-04-13T05:15:00Z")

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THINK! For goodness sake!

Ask yourself if 0.333 = 0.3333?  
Is 0.3333 repeating = 0.333?  
What is 1/3? Without saying “repeating”, there would be NO exact decimal equivalent!

You see that, from this example,  
0.9999 repeating ad infinitum is still \< 1!  
These are two distinct numbers!

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**Author:** ![emarkp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3be4f8/32.png) [@emarkp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emarkp)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2000, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/math-99repeating-1/11021/14 "2000-04-13T05:49:00Z")

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Sigh. [Is 0.999…=1 ?](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/007229.html)

Yes, they’re equal. Go see the other thread.

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/math-99repeating-1/11021/15 "2000-04-12T18:53:00Z")

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Hey, Jinx! Think!!

1 = 1.  
4 = 4.  
.25 = .25

Therefore, 1/4 can’t equal .25, can it?

Sheeeeeeesh. [/sarcasm]

.333 is not equal to 1/3  
.333333333333 is not equal to 1/3  
.33333333[1 billion 3’s]33 is not equal to 1/3

but .3333… where the decimal 3 repeats infinitely many times IS in fact, equal to 1/3.

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**Author:** ![CheapBastid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8baadc/32.png) [@CheapBastid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheapBastid)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/math-99repeating-1/11021/16 "2000-04-12T21:14:00Z")

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_Again_ with the [Infinities](http://www.greylabyrinth.com/Puzzles/puzzle006.htm)…

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**Author:** ![tony1234](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4491bb/32.png) [@tony1234](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tony1234)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/math-99repeating-1/11021/17 "2000-04-12T22:20:00Z")

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Again, I suggest we be a little more charitable. Many people have the understandable intuition that .9 repeating does not equal 1. This intution can be modelled in nonstandard number systems without contradition (or so I have heard). The existence of infintesimals is no more problematic than the existence of imaginary numbers.

Tony

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**Author:** ![pipefitter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/97f17d/32.png) [@pipefitter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pipefitter)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2000, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/math-99repeating-1/11021/18 "2000-04-13T00:24:00Z")

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Now ask a machinist if .9999 is equal to one.  
Most likely he will say no, because they are used to working in tollerences where that .0001 might make a difference in the way a part fits

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2000, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/math-99repeating-1/11021/19 "2000-04-13T03:03:00Z")

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But, you see, pipefitter, not only are we not talking about machinists and fittings, we’re also not talking about .9999. We’re discussing 0.99999… (“Zero point Nine (with the 9 repeating ad infinitum)”). Thus, I think I’ll go with the answer posted by the professional mathematician above who’s already stated for us that not only does 0.99999… (“Zero point Nine (with the 9 repeating ad infinitum)”) equal 1, but that it’s easily proved.

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**Author:** ![Red\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a5b964/32.png) [@Red\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_2)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2000, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/math-99repeating-1/11021/20 "2000-04-13T03:17:00Z")

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