# Matt Drudge: hysterical demagogue

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-drudge-hysterical-demagogue/213648>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 17, 2003, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-drudge-hysterical-demagogue/213648 "2003-11-17T05:00:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-drudge-hysterical-demagogue/213648/41 "2003-11-18T19:19:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by leenmi \*  
> \*\*The article describes what anonymous studio folk are outraged about. The article isn’t about condemning the movie, it’s about what makes it outrageous to some.
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> Drudge may have splashed the banner across the top of his page in big, bold style; but is anyone questioning the facts of the article? Is anyone questioning whether some studio folk are outraged that a movie produced by a part of the Disney empire shows Santa Claus getting drunk and screwing a barmaid he just met?
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> It won’t keep me from seeing the movie. I read the article when he posted it and chuckled that people are going to get so twisted about it. I thought it sounded like another Shakes the Clown.
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> I didn’t think Drudge was trying to get the movie killed. I think he was just muckraking again, which is what he does. \*\*

Yes. **I** am questioning the facts of the article. The movie does _not_ show “Santa Claus” doing any of those things. The movie shows a _criminal_ doing those things. The criminal happens to work as a mall Santa but that’s not the same as showing the character of “Santa” doing those things. I think it’s a valid distinction and it’s a distinction that Drudge doesn’t reveal in the article.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-drudge-hysterical-demagogue/213648/42 "2003-11-18T19:39:23Z")

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Yeah! And Santa never got the chance to boink Angelina Jolie, either.

Yeah, Grudge is a jerk. But, to be fair, many’s the time I’ve seen him showcase news that was entirely disfavorable to his political alignment, and that should be credited. I check in on him every day, just before or after _Buzzflash_, whose hysterical headliness bring me to blush. Anyday now, I expect to see “Cheney stuffs kittens into blenders for Haliburton…”

**Gobear** , I’m glad to see you here, it offers an opportunity to show how “with it” and “up to date” I am!

These pants…do they go with these shoes? And when I get a bag of socks from K-Mart: crew or ankle length?

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**Author:** ![syncrolecyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f08c70/32.png) [@syncrolecyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/syncrolecyne)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-drudge-hysterical-demagogue/213648/43 "2003-11-18T22:15:23Z")

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Matt Drudge likes to party in gay bars, has a lot of gay friends, and has an occassional date with a man…but he is not “gay”.

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**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2003, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-drudge-hysterical-demagogue/213648/44 "2003-11-19T03:35:54Z")

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Thread title - “Matt Drudge: hysterical demagogue”

Oh, the irony.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2003, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-drudge-hysterical-demagogue/213648/45 "2003-11-19T03:39:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by syncrolecyne \*  
> \*\*Matt Drudge likes to party in gay bars, has a lot of gay friends, and has an occassional date with a man…but he is not “gay”. \*\*

He’s an imposter? Like that Indian Guy in the Village People?

Is he one of those “motor-sexuals”? (I try to stay with it. But it moves.)

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2003, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-drudge-hysterical-demagogue/213648/46 "2003-11-19T03:45:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*  
> \*\*As in self-hating Log Cabin queen in the Terry Dolan/Roy Cohn mode. \*\*

H’uh. It figures, doesn’t it?

(Who was Terry Dolan, though? I remember Cohn, but not Dolan)

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**Author:** ![DarkWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee59a6/32.png) [@DarkWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DarkWriter)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2003, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-drudge-hysterical-demagogue/213648/47 "2003-11-19T03:58:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Mojo \*  
> \*\*Let’s not forget that he’s also an adulterer, as described in _I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus_. \*\*

According to the book [Santa Steps Out](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0843947810/qid=1069214055/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-7314284-7273667?v=glance&s=books), he’s having an affair with the Tooth Fairy!

A very cool and twisted read. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2003, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-drudge-hysterical-demagogue/213648/48 "2003-11-19T11:46:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DarkWriter \*  
> \*\* he’s having an affair with the Tooth Fairy! \*\*

That was one truly fucked-up novel. Here’s a really tame sample of what’s going on on there:

[spoiler]Ya see, the Tooth Fairy _eats teeth, and shits coins._

That explains a few things, doesn’t it?[/spoiler]

I was going to mention that book-- Darn you, **DarkWriter**!

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2003, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-drudge-hysterical-demagogue/213648/49 "2003-11-19T15:15:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by elucidator \*  
> \*\*He’s an imposter? Like that Indian Guy in the Village People?  
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Huh? Felipe Rose is openly gay. His father is a Lakota Sioux.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Zero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Saint\_Zero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Zero)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2003, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-drudge-hysterical-demagogue/213648/50 "2003-11-19T16:34:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \*  
> \*\*Drudge was instrumental in killing the CBS Reagan movie. Writing a dishonest report about this movie could conceivably hurt its box office. \*\*

Uh… What box office? He guaranteed it boffo ratings when it appears later this month on Showtime. Why the whining? Disturbed that the sleazefest won’t be on CBS?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2003, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-drudge-hysterical-demagogue/213648/51 "2003-11-19T16:56:05Z")

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Sleazefest?

It sounded like a fairly accurate representation to me. Even the “live in sin die in sin” line, while not an exact quote wasn’t that different than something Reagan actually _did_ say once. Edmund Morris’ biography quoted him as saying that "Maybe the Lord brought down this plague” because illicit sex is against the Ten Commandments.”

Some of his closest advisors and associates were also outspoken homophobes including his chief domestic policy advisor, Gary Bauer as well as the likes of Jerry Falwell.

The rest of the stuff that was supposedly “outrageous” was also basically true. Nancy Reagan was indeed very controlling, did hypocritically gobble pills while preaching “Just say no,” and did use an astrologer to set official schedules.

Actually, I would argue that the movie sounds rather more softball than particularly aggressive since it repotedly makes no mention of Iran-Contra or Reagan’s support of Osama bin Laden, the Afghan rebels who later became the Taliban and Saddam Hussein.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Obvious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dbc845/32.png) [@Mr.Obvious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Obvious)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-drudge-hysterical-demagogue/213648/52 "2003-11-20T05:02:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \*  
> \*\*Sleazefest?
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> It sounded like a fairly accurate representation to me.\*\*

Well…from your posts, you “sound like” a liberal partisan transparent shit for brains who trolls around life looking for conservative nuggets of foolishness (of which there are many to choose from) so that you can run to this board and babble your way to another 1000 or so odd posts ABOUT THE SAME FUCKING TOPIC EVERY FUCKING TIME…Liberalism is Good, Conservatism is Bad.

Like I said before you skipping LP of liberal partisan drivel…we get it. Your point has been made…move on.

(Now…don’t you think I’m jumping to mass conclusions about your character and actions when all I have to go on is your posting behavior on this message board…just like you are jumping to conclusions about a made-for-TV movie that you and I have never seen, but have read snippets of the script from various sources?..of which one is the person you label as a hysterical demagogue…Matt Drudge?)

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