# Matt Gaetz being investigated for sex with 17 year old girl (DOJ declines to charge 2023-02-15)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 30, 2021, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052 "2021-03-30T22:13:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/182 "2021-04-06T11:32:23Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> If Matt Gaetz is ousted from Congress, he can always try a career as a televangelist. His hair and morals make him a natural.

Or live action Butthead:

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51099059623_f8dec1c5f5_b.jpg "2021-04-06\_06-30-45") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/51099059623/)

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51098599114_ba530cbd8b_b.jpg "beavis-butthead-1") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/51098599114/)

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/183 "2021-04-06T12:46:42Z")

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Matt Gaetz voting record on this is 😮

Combined with the statements from colleagues it paints him as just the giant sleazeball you already know him to be.

> **[Former lawmaker says Gaetz fought ‘revenge porn’ law: ‘He thought that any...](https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-ne-matt-gaetz-revenge-porn-20210405-5qbme6ilzna3rhry6gzqeevwpq-story.html)**
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> While serving in the Florida Legislature, U.S. Rep. Matt Gaetz opposed a bill meant to stop people from sharing sexually explicit images of their ex-lovers because Gaetz believed that recipients of those images had a right to share them, according to...

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/184 "2021-04-06T12:47:45Z")

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I mean:

> The nonconsensual porn legislation finally passed in 2015, clearing the state House on a 114-2 vote. The only two no votes were Gaetz and former Republican state Rep. John Tobia, who was [one of Gaetz’s roommates in Tallahassee](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/alexislevinson/matt-gaetz-ultimate-trump-defender-is-happy-being-notorious) and is now a Brevard County commissioner.

Gaetz managed to make it so only posting it online would be a violation, while sending to all your buddies is fine. Great job Florida!

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/185 "2021-04-06T14:06:13Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> And that’s the first time I ever heard of a Congressman having a military advisor;

Every Congressman has a “military advisor,” just like they have an “education advisor” and a “health advisor” — i.e. a staff member assigned to track legislative activity around a certain subject and advise the Congressman. Usually this person will also have several other issue areas he or she is responsible for, although if the Congressman is on a relevant committee the staffer may be more specialized. First time I’ve heard such a staffer referred to as a “Director of Military Affairs” though.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/186 "2021-04-06T14:08:30Z")

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Give them enough titles and you can win any war!

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/187 "2021-04-06T14:18:32Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Just how reliably can you tell the difference between a 17-year-old dressed up for dinner and a 21-year-old?

“Well, I just start with the outside fork and work my way in.” - Matt Gaetz.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/188 "2021-04-06T14:19:52Z")

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Gonna say that was one of the most useful lines in movie history. I bet millions heard Kathy Bates say that and a light bulb went off in their heads.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/189 "2021-04-06T17:36:05Z")

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When he said he never had sex with a 17 year old female while he was over 17, hes implying when he was 17, a 17 year old girl had sex with him. I find that hard to believe any woman would want to have sex with him.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/190 "2021-04-06T17:37:14Z")

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> [@Ziberian](#):
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> Dunno if this counts as ‘good’, but notice the name ‘Cuomo’ has disappeared from the front page. As if, no matter how bad Dems are, Repubs can always outdo them.

It is also an interesting contrast in terms of how the different parties are dealing with this. Coumo has been thoroughly rejected by the Democratic establishment and asked to resign, While Republicans have either offered a full throated defense of Gaetz, or at best attempted to avoid the subject entirely.

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**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/191 "2021-04-06T18:16:35Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> While Republicans have either offered a full throated defense of Gaetz, or at best attempted to avoid the subject entirely.

I haven’t seen one full throated defense of Gaetz, though perhaps I missed it. MTG maybe? I’ve mostly seen no-commenting and embarrassed shuffling.

> **[Trump and his allies abandon Gaetz](https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/06/trump-matt-gaetz-lifeline-479126)**
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> The congressman was a MAGA fixture. Now, engulfed in scandal, he’s persona non grata in Trumpworld.

> **[Republicans Seem to Have Lost Matt Gaetz’s Number](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/04/republicans-seem-to-have-lost-matt-gaetzs-number)**
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> As the Florida Congressman defends himself against sexual misconduct allegations, Donald Trump and other party leaders appear to be keeping their distance.

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**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/192 "2021-04-06T18:20:23Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> I haven’t seen one full throated defense of Gaetz, though perhaps I missed it. MTG maybe? I’ve mostly seen no-commenting and embarrassed shuffling. -

The fact there’s no full-throated condemnation says much.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/193 "2021-04-06T18:21:19Z")

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Democratic Congressman Ro Khanna, who previously has called Gaetz his friend, is rapidly backing away from that “friendship”.

> **[Dem Rep Quietly Backs Away From Matt Gaetz After Claiming They ‘Hang Out’](https://www.thedailybeast.com/dem-rep-ro-khanna-quietly-backs-away-from-matt-gaetz-after-claiming-they-hang-out)**
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> Last month, Khanna appeared on Fox alongside Gaetz, gushing about their “unlikely” friendship. This week, however, the congressman claimed they were all business.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/194 "2021-04-06T18:32:29Z")

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Gym Jordan, who knows a thing or two about sexual cover-ups, is supporting Gaetz:

> **[Jim Jordan, accused in sex abuse cover-up, says he believes Matt Gaetz](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jim-jordan-matt-gaetz-allegations-b1825825.html)**
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> Ohio congressman backs up Matt Gaetz when many Republicans are hesitant to give full-throated support

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**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/195 "2021-04-06T19:21:57Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Give them enough titles and you can win any war!

Man, this is a terrible font. Considering the subject matter, I initially saw that fourth word there as having 3 "t"s, not an “l”.

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**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/196 "2021-04-06T19:27:44Z")

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That works, too! ( \* ) ( \* )

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/197 "2021-04-06T19:57:30Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Gym Jordan, who knows a thing or two about sexual cover-ups, is supporting Gaetz:

That’s who I was thinking of.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/198 "2021-04-06T20:15:18Z")

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That’s another guy that the Democrats would have been all over to resign – he was in charge while all kinds of sexual assault was happening under his watch as a wrestling coach.

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**Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/199 "2021-04-07T01:03:04Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> I find that hard to believe any woman would want to have sex with him.

They say everyone has their price …

I’m gobsmacked that there’s a woman who wants to _marry_ the putz.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/200 "2021-04-07T01:04:11Z")

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The Rachel Maddow show is saying that the NY Times is now reporting that Gaetz asked Trump for a blanket pardon for himself and for group of unnamed others.

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**Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/201 "2021-04-07T01:14:06Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> When he said he never had sex with a 17 year old female while he was over 17

He’s saying she was on top?

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