# Matt Gaetz being investigated for sex with 17 year old girl (DOJ declines to charge 2023-02-15) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 30, 2021, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052 "2021-03-30T22:13:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/202 "2021-04-07T02:03:43Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > The Rachel Maddow show is saying that the NY Times is now reporting that Gaetz asked Trump for a blanket pardon for himself and for group of unnamed others. Did he ask yesterday? ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/203 "2021-04-07T02:14:57Z")
Looks like he asked for a group pardon for a bunch of people so he could kind of just swim away amidst a school. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/204 "2021-04-07T02:27:35Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > Looks like he asked for a group pardon for a bunch of people so he could kind of just swim away amidst a school. From the Times article: > [@](#): > > In the final weeks of Mr. Trump’s term, Mr. Gaetz sought something in return. He privately asked the White House for blanket pre-emptive pardons for himself and unidentified congressional allies for any crimes they may have committed, according to two people told of the discussions. > > Around that time, Mr. Gaetz was also publicly calling for broad pardons from Mr. Trump to thwart what he termed the “bloodlust” of their political opponents. But Justice Department [investigators](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/30/us/politics/matt-gaetz-sex-trafficking-investigation.html) had begun questioning Mr. Gaetz’s associates about his conduct, including whether he had a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old that violated sex trafficking laws, in an inquiry that grew out of the case of an indicted associate in Florida. > > It was unclear whether Mr. Gaetz or the White House knew at the time about the inquiry, or who else he sought pardons for. Mr. Gaetz did not tell White House aides that he was under investigation for potential sex trafficking violations when he made the request. But top White House lawyers and officials viewed the request for a pre-emptive pardon as a nonstarter that would set a bad precedent, the people said. > **[Matt Gaetz, Loyal for Years to Trump, Is Said to Have Sought a Blanket Pardon...](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/06/us/politics/matt-gaetz-trump-pardon.html)** > > The congressman was at the time under investigation over whether he violated sex trafficking laws, though it was unclear what he knew of the inquiry. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/206 "2021-04-07T03:32:21Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > The Rachel Maddow show is saying that the NY Times is now reporting… … the obvious. I mean, who would think that Gaetz _wouldn’t_ go to Trump for pardons? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/207 "2021-04-07T04:49:01Z")
No, no, I was just having trouble understanding him: “Pardon?” ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/208 "2021-04-07T14:51:03Z")
Easy rationalization for the Trumpists: “We only asked for pardons because we knew the vindictive Marxist cancel-culturing left would go after the people who loved America most the moment they had the power to do so.” ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/209 "2021-04-07T15:04:09Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > Looks like he asked for a group pardon for a bunch of people so he could kind of just swim away amidst a school. Specifically, a high school. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/210 "2021-04-07T15:15:04Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Did he ask yesterday? Well, to the True Believers Trump is the One True President and that asshole currently occupying the White House is merely a usurper soon to be deposed. It’s War of the Roses American style. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/211 "2021-04-07T16:44:07Z")
Here’s more from CNN. > **[Matt Gaetz sought a preemptive pardon from Trump, but the request was never...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/06/politics/matt-gaetz-pardon-donald-trump/index.html)** > > Rep. Matt Gaetz sought a preemptive pardon for himself near the end of President Donald Trump's term and made his request known to someone outside the White House Counsel's office, according to two people familiar with the matter, but Gaetz's request... ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/212 "2021-04-07T16:51:11Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > It’s War of the Roses American style. War of the Rose Garden ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/213 "2021-04-07T17:12:53Z")
👍🏽 ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/214 "2021-04-08T10:56:32Z")
Melania struck the killing blow! ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/215 "2021-04-08T13:58:43Z")
That’s why he’s so interested in the southern border- all those unaccompanied minors. We all know how this is going to play out- he’s going to resign. Before this month is over. Whether or not he ever gets charged remains to be seen, I think more likely than not. If you’re a Republican and Billy Barr didn’t squelch an investigation into you, well that says a lot about your behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/216 "2021-04-08T14:33:22Z")
But, but, spending more time with family, though, is a precious, precious thing. Wait - does he have one? TLTG too lazy to google ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/217 "2021-04-08T14:46:11Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Wait - does he have one? You should google it - it’s worth a thread of its own. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/218 "2021-04-08T14:47:17Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Wait - does he have one? You lefties don’t understand the precious love between a sugar daddy and his sugar babies. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/219 "2021-04-08T14:53:47Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > You lefties don’t understand the precious love between a sugar daddy and his sugar babies. I’ll be really happy if this brings heat on Seeking Arrangements and similar websites. When I’m on dating sites, it really annoys me when someone reaches out but instead of dating wants a SD/SB relationship or “Mutually Beneficial” relationship or diverts to Seeking Arrangements or something like that. In my view, SD/SB is sex work. Okay, I’m an advocate on sex work being legalized, but it doesn’t belong on dating sites. It’s not dating! It irritates me to the extent that I experience (perhaps unfair) glee when Seeking Arrangements gets criticized. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/220 "2021-04-08T15:15:56Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Wait - does he have one? Only when it’s politically advantageous. Last summer during a house debate over police reform, a black representative (D, natch) said, “You all are white males, you never lived in my shoes, and you do not know what it’s like to be an African American male.” Matt Gaetz took issue with this, saying, “Are you suggesting that none of us have nonwhite children?” The rest of the exchange was whatever, but Gaetz took to the media the next day to announce that he in fact DID have a non-white child, his adopted son Nestor, who he had never declared as a dependent, to anyone, ever. Naturally the internet had a field day with “Matt Gaetz made up an adoption story to cover for the fact that he has a live-in teen boyfriend” memes, but the truth is even more ridiculous. See, Nestor has parents in Cuba – they’re doing fine. Matt Gaetz dated Nestor’s sister and I guess took a liking to her little brother, inviting him to stay at his house while doing some high school program in Florida and I think even let him do an internship with him. This was actually quite nice of him. But then he got stupid and decided that “This kid who I helped out for a few months is actually my adopted son” would be a great gotchaya and made up the whole adoption angle to score political points. It’s bonkers. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/221 "2021-04-08T15:53:06Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > Naturally the internet had a field day with “Matt Gaetz made up an adoption story to cover for the fact that he has a live-in teen boyfriend” memes, but the truth is even more ridiculous. See, Nestor has parents in Cuba – they’re doing fine. Matt Gaetz dated Nestor’s sister and I guess took a liking to her little brother, inviting him to stay at his house while doing some high school program in Florida and I think even let him do an internship with him. This was actually quite nice of him. But then he got stupid and decided that “This kid who I helped out for a few months is actually my adopted son” would be a great gotchaya and made up the whole adoption angle to score political points. It’s bonkers. What are the odds Matt doesn’t even know that adoption is a legal process rather than a fancy word for “this kid is like a son to me”? ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/222 "2021-04-08T17:14:57Z")
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