# Matt Gaetz being investigated for sex with 17 year old girl (DOJ declines to charge 2023-02-15) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 30, 2021, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052 "2021-03-30T22:13:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/223 "2021-04-08T17:28:05Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > But then he got stupid and decided that “This kid who I helped out for a few months is actually my adopted son” [![](https://i.ibb.co/tHzvZSB/I-am-your-father.jpg) ](https://i.ibb.co/tHzvZSB/I-am-your-father.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/224 "2021-04-08T20:16:52Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > I’ll be really happy if this brings heat on Seeking Arrangements and similar websites. When I’m on dating sites, it really annoys me when someone reaches out but instead of dating wants a SD/SB relationship or “Mutually Beneficial” relationship or diverts to Seeking Arrangements or something like that. In my view, SD/SB is sex work. Okay, I’m an advocate on sex work being legalized, but it doesn’t belong on dating sites. It’s not dating! It irritates me to the extent that I experience (perhaps unfair) glee when Seeking Arrangements gets criticized. I’m not following. Seeing Arrangements is a dating site specifically for SD/SB relationships. The fact that it exists should keep people looking for that off of regular dating sites. If it goes away, they would probably move en masse to the regular sites. Why exactly do you hate it? ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/225 "2021-04-08T20:47:06Z")
Uh oh, his partner in crime, [Joel Greenberg is likely to strike a plea deal](https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/08/politics/greenberg-gaetz/index.html). While there are no released details about the possible plea agreement, these are the words of Greenberg’s attorney: > I’m sure Matt Gaetz is not feeling very comfortable today ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/226 "2021-04-08T22:55:03Z")
Gaetz was asked to comment: [![](https://i.imgur.com/vxxYCQy.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/vxxYCQy.png) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/227 "2021-04-08T23:16:31Z")
Let me see, has it been mentioned that Gaetz had a 17-year-old girlfriend and that the 17th letter of the alphabet is “Q”? Connect the dot, people. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/228 "2021-04-08T23:28:00Z")
A second staffer for Rep. [Matt Gaetz](https://thehill.com/people/matthew-matt-gaetz) (R), resigned late last week amid allegations that the Florida congressman engaged in sex trafficking and sex with a minor The New York Times [reported Thursday.](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/04/08/us/biden-news-today#another-aide-to-matt-gaetz-is-said-to-have-quit-amid-an-intensifying-justice-department-investigation) Gaetz’s legislative director Devin Murphy was the second staffer to leave Gaetz’s office, three people with knowledge of the matter told the Times. ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/229 "2021-04-09T02:01:51Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > has it been mentioned… Yes [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/5hoEQnH8KDI/maxresdefault.jpg "Weekend Update: Matt Gaetz Under Investigation - SNL") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hoEQnH8KDI) ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/230 "2021-04-09T16:37:29Z")
Remember kids: Keep your transactions private: > **[Gaetz Paid Accused Sex Trafficker, Who Then Venmo’d Teen](https://www.thedailybeast.com/gaetz-paid-accused-sex-trafficker-who-then-venmod-teen)** > > When Joel Greenberg made his Venmo payments to three young women, he described the money as being for “Tuition,” “School,” and “School.” ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/231 "2021-04-09T17:06:10Z")
Looking at that picture - are those two related? ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/232 "2021-04-09T17:17:01Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > We all know how this is going to play out- he’s going to resign. Before this month is over. No, I think you’re probably wrong here. In the good old days pre-Trump, you would be right, and you could generally assume that the (internal party and external) pressure and shame would eventually result in resignation. But Trump wrote a new playbook, which is to bully, bluster, threaten and wait until the next news cycle outrage to take over. And shame is no longer an affliction of any GOP politician. Gaetz in particular is following the Trump model pretty much exactly. So I would say that he rides this out unless criminal charges are filed. Then and only then might he _consider_ resigning, and maybe not even then. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/233 "2021-04-09T17:27:51Z")
I hope you are incorrect, but you make excellent points. As more sordid accusations are brought forward, I think even Republicans will refuse to cover for him. Yes, the current playbook is to deny, deflect, and bluster at the top of the lungs but he is not the Teflon Don that his idol is. If his former associate (a true scumbag) has flipped and provides info that the FBI can confirm, staying in office is the very least of his concerns. I’d love to see Gaetz-gaet end with life in a supermax prison for him. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/234 "2021-04-09T17:46:55Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > Looking at that picture - are those two related? Watch the video. At 0:15-0:20: “Matt Gaetz, who looks like a caricature artist’s drawing of me…” -Colin Jost ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/235 "2021-04-09T18:25:13Z")
This story has everything that the Q crowd has been yelling about for three years now, and yet crickets. Starting to think they didn’t actually care about child sex trafficking. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/236 "2021-04-09T18:33:31Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Starting to think they didn’t actually care about child sex trafficking. Unless Satan is involved, it’s not such a big deal. ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/237 "2021-04-09T18:53:29Z")
It reminds me of the panic over non-existent Satanic sex abuse at daycare centers in the 1980s, during which the largest Christian outfit in the world actually _was_ covering up outrageous sexual crimes by its own. ETA: Ninja’ed by Procrutus. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/238 "2021-04-09T19:11:20Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > This story has everything that the Q crowd has been yelling about for three years now, and yet crickets. Starting to think they didn’t actually care about child sex trafficking. They have more projection than a multiplex. I’m beginning to think that maybe some Republicans actually hid captive children in the basement of a pizza restaurant… that’s why they were accusing Democrats of doing this. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/239 "2021-04-09T19:43:04Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > This story has everything that the Q crowd has been yelling about for three years now, and yet crickets. That is a scurrilous lie. Scurrilous! QAnon have had _plenty_ to say about the Gaetz scandal, and [they’re furious](https://www.salon.com/2021/03/31/qanon-fans-flock-to-matt-gaetzs-defense-despite-claims-of-sexual-misconduct/). Furious about how Gaetz is obviously being framed. Reflexive tribal logic, QED. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/240 "2021-04-09T20:02:11Z")
A legal team associated with Individual 1 is threatening to sue reporters if they don’t stop reporting on Gaetz’ connections with Individual 1,. > **[Gaetz-tied group threatens to sue reporters writing on his Trump relationship](https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/08/gaetz-reporters-trump-480534)** > > The Logan Circle Group warned journalists they risked a lawsuit if they didn’t retract reports that Trump was distancing himself from the embattled congressman. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/241 "2021-04-09T20:09:00Z")
Politicians try to delay until we lose focus. Cuomo hasn’t resigned yet and there’s more evidence in his case (so far). It seems like the furor over his harassment is dying down so this is a bipartisan problem. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/242 "2021-04-09T20:19:51Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > Looking at that picture - are those two related? Yeah, they’re BRO’s, dude… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052.md?page=13)