# Matt Gaetz being investigated for sex with 17 year old girl (DOJ declines to charge 2023-02-15) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 30, 2021, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052 "2021-03-30T22:13:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/624 "2022-03-21T19:59:33Z")
There oughta be a law! > **[“Don’t Say Gaetz” Law Protects Florida’s Kids from Matt Gaetz](https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/dont-say-gaetz-law-protects-floridas-kids-from-matt-gaetz)** > > “Our high-school kids are exposed to many dangers on a daily basis,” one parent said. “No danger is greater than Matt Gaetz.” ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/625 "2022-03-21T20:02:31Z")
Wow. Couldn’t disagree more. How could they ever testify against him if they refuse to speak his name? 😇 ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/626 "2022-03-21T20:34:50Z")
“He Who Cannot Be Shamed”? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2022, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/627 "2022-06-01T17:34:16Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > This might explain the talk that he will quit Congress 13 months later, IOKWARDI ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2022, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/628 "2022-06-01T19:20:54Z")
15 months. What is taking so long with this investigation?? ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2022, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/629 "2022-06-01T20:55:19Z")
According to Politico, they’re planning to go forward with sentencing against Greenberg in August. > **[Sentencing for Gaetz 'wingman' delayed until August](https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/16/greenberg-set-to-be-sentenced-in-august-00032764)** > > The former tax collector pleaded guilty to six felony charges. Sentencing happens after the Feds have 1) drained him dry of information, and 2) verified that he didn’t lie to them in any of that. So they’re, presumably, still in phase 2. My guess would be that they try to grab as many people, all at once, as they can so that it can be one trial and so that you can start working to cut deals with some of them to rat out others. Maybe they have Gaetz in the bag (maybe not - there’s still the chance that he’s largely innocent, in theory) but they’re still working to lock down other accomplices to certain acts. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/630 "2022-07-28T13:02:42Z")
Heheheheh. > **[Teen body-shamed by Matt Gaetz gets the last laugh by raising hundreds of...](https://www.aol.com/entertainment/teen-body-shamed-matt-gaetz-081046677.html)** > > Olivia Julianna explained how the money Republican Matt Gaetz inadvertently helped raise for abortion rights will be used throughout the country. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/631 "2022-07-28T13:08:27Z")
To recap, Matt Gaetz claimed that women in favor of abortion rights are “too fat and ugly to be impregnated”. A reminder that Matt Gaetz had to pay someone to bring him women from another state to have sex with, apparently because he’s so repellent he couldn’t find any women in _Florida_ who would sleep with him. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/632 "2022-07-28T13:08:55Z")
**GOOD.** This pleases me. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/633 "2022-07-31T03:09:36Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > To recap, Matt Gaetz claimed that women in favor of abortion rights are “too fat and ugly to be impregnated”. Which, I know it’s no use trying to apply logic to the rhetoric of a QOP conspiracy loon, but this has always struck me as almost too self-evidently stupid to be credible even for Matt Gaetz. I mean, if it were actually true that only women “too fat and ugly to be impregnated” cared about abortion rights, then THERE WOULDN’T BE ANY ABORTIONS, see? All of us fat and ugly (and in my case, postmenopausal! for extra safety!) chicks would be over here fretting about the right to abortion access but totally secure from unwanted pregnancy. And all the hot chicks would be over there risking impregnation, and occasionally having an unwanted pregnancy but never trying to get an abortion, because they don’t want abortion rights in the first place, according to this assumption. So, if the only people who care about abortion rights never get pregnant, and the only people eligible for impregnation never want abortions, then WHO EXACTLY DOES MATT GAETZ THINK IS HAVING THOSE 600,000+ ABORTIONS PER YEAR IN THE US?? Sorry for yelling at you like you’re Matt Gaetz, but the sheer oblivious cognitive dissonance is maddening. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/634 "2022-07-31T03:35:55Z")
And, [speaking of Matt Gaetz…](https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/july-30-2022) > [@](#): > > This morning, Jon Swaine and Dalton Bennett of the Washington Post reported that on October 11, 2019, at Trump’s National Doral golf resort in South Florida, Danish filmmakers caught an unguarded conversation between Trump allies talking about their legal exposure because of their work for the president. > > Recording a documentary about Trump’s friend and operative, Roger Stone, the filmmakers caught Stone and Representative Matt Gaetz (R-FL) on Stone’s lapel microphone talking about Stone’s upcoming trial for lying to Congress and witness tampering during the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election. […] > > At the time the new tape was recorded, Stone was complaining that prosecutors were pressuring him to turn on Trump, and on the tape, said he might “have to appeal to the big man.” Gaetz can be heard agreeing that Stone was “f_ck_d,” but Gaetz didn’t think he would “do a day” in prison. Claiming he had heard it directly from Trump, Gaetz said: “The boss still has a very favorable view of you,” and continued, “I don’t think the big guy can let you go down for this.” “I don’t think you’re going to go down at all at the end of the day,” Gaetz told Stone. > > Gaetz sits on the House Judiciary Committee and thus had seen portions of the redacted sections of Special Counsel Muller’s report on Russian interference in the 2016 election. Although the committee members were prohibited from talking about it except among themselves, Gaetz talked with Stone about it, telling him that he was “not going to have a defense.” […] > > As the two men expected, on November 15 a jury found Stone guilty of seven counts of lying to Congress and witness tampering. > > And then, when it came time for his sentencing, events played out as Gaetz suggested they would. […] > > Immediately after the sentencing recommendation, though, Trump tweeted that it was “horrible and unfair” and a “miscarriage of justice.” The Justice Department, operating under Attorney General William Barr, then reversed itself, saying its own prosecutors had failed to be “reasonable.” […] > > Trump tweeted: “Congratulations to Attorney General Bill Barr for taking charge of a case that was totally out of control and perhaps should not have even been brought. Evidence now clearly shows that the Mueller Scam was improperly brought & tainted.” > > Days before Stone was due to report to prison in July to serve 40 months, Trump commuted his sentence, thus removing his jail time, supervised release, and a $20,000 fine. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) called Trump’s move “an act of staggering corruption,” and Representative Adam Schiff (D-CA) called it “a real body blow to the rule of law in this country.” > > Then, on December 23, 2020, Trump pardoned Stone, as Gaetz had predicted, rewarding his personal loyalty. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/635 "2022-08-02T17:20:25Z")
I am shocked, _shocked_ to learn that pardons were being tossed around by the President’s allies on Capitol Hill. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/636 "2022-08-08T18:00:29Z")
Gaetz is criticizing Kevin McCarthy and says Gym Jordan should be the new chairman of the Republican caucus. No, Matt, Gym only lets sexual assault go when it’s boys. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/637 "2022-08-08T18:29:13Z")
Every time I see a bump to this thread I am anticipating that an indictment has come down, and every time I am extremely disappointed. And now I’ve just done that to someone else… ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/638 "2022-08-08T18:42:55Z")
That’s literally why I just read this thread again. 😔 ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/639 "2022-08-17T18:14:07Z")
Parents are asking why a local Florida school is hosting Gaetz even as he’s being investigated for child sexual abuse. > **[“Would He Even Pass a Background Check?”: Floridians Balk at Matt Gaetz’s...](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/08/floridians-balk-at-matt-gaetzs-scheduled-event-with-kids)** > > The conservative Florida lawmaker is under federal investigation in connection to the sex trafficking of a minor—allegations he denies. A group, largely made up of local women, is furious he’s still allowed to meet with kids at a Niceville, Florida,... ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/640 "2022-08-17T18:40:48Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Florida school This is the answer. ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/641 "2022-08-17T20:02:48Z")
> A local resident, Karen, whose niece is in the Okaloosa County school system, and who asked for anonymity because she lives in a very conservative area, was frustrated with what she saw as a double standard; If they picked a name out of a hat to maintain anonymity, I wish they’d picked again. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/642 "2022-08-17T20:07:42Z")
This story “broke” on reddit (I’m assuming the Karen in question is the redditor who has been posting the updates there). It seems that the superintendent is nonplussed by the whole affair – either he thinks the allegations are baseless (seems likely, given the area) or he doesn’t see what the fuss is. At the same time, for kids wanting to go to a service academy, sucking up to Gaetz is one of the few options on the table, and it seems problematic to shut that down. The real problem, of course, is how Gaetz is still in his position. If he can’t be put in a position where he might have a power imbalance over a 17 year old girl due to a credible allegation and an ongoing investigation, then he’s unfit to be a congressman. Maybe the supe will see this at some point. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/643 "2022-08-17T20:18:35Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > for kids wanting to go to a service academy, sucking up to Gaetz Not the words I would have chosen here… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052.md?page=33)