# Matt Gaetz being investigated for sex with 17 year old girl (DOJ declines to charge 2023-02-15)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 30, 2021, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052 "2021-03-30T22:13:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/644 "2022-08-17T22:27:48Z")

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No worries here. If Gaetz gets one of the girls pregnant, the state will force her to carry the rape-fetus. Then after giving birth they will call her a welfare queen. TWO opportunities for them to feel superior!

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/645 "2022-08-18T05:44:13Z")

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Mark Lombardo, who is Gaetz’s opponent in the Republican primary, is accusing Gaetz of being the FBI informant.  
“More Trumpier than thou”.

> **[Matt Gaetz's Republican primary opponent suggests he is the possible FBI...](https://www.businessinsider.com/matt-gaetzs-opponent-suggests-mar-a-lago-informant-attack-ad-2022-8)**
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> The attack ad against longtime Trump ally Rep. Matt Gaetz is the latest allegation as Trump's inner circle tries to root out a possible FBI informant.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/646 "2022-08-18T15:25:45Z")

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Is it plausible? i.e. was he that close with the TFG that he might have been shown the sekrit papurs (his spelling, not mine)?

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**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/647 "2022-08-18T15:42:27Z")

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Is it plausible that the DoJ would base a search warrant of Mar a Lago on a the alleged claims of Republican congressman under investigation for, well, anything? Not to me. While I would like to believe the FBI would take all evidence submitted to them seriously, I would also think they would be extra-skeptical of any evidence that supports their investigations. One reason these investigations take so long.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/648 "2022-08-18T16:02:05Z")

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I also don’t trust claims made in a political attack ad.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/649 "2022-08-18T17:34:11Z")

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It is sort of interesting to watch the leopards eat each others faces.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/650 "2022-08-18T20:48:03Z")

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Not a terribly nutritious diet… but plenty of fun for onlookers.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/651 "2022-08-19T03:11:24Z")

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> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#):
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> Is it plausible that the DoJ would base a search warrant of Mar a Lago on a the alleged claims of Republican congressman under investigation for, well, anything? Not to me. While I would like to believe the FBI would take all evidence submitted to them seriously, I would also think they would be extra-skeptical of any evidence that supports their investigations. One reason these investigations take so long. ⁢

See, my thoughts would be that they were using his current situation as leverage. That would be the one way I could see him becoming an informant, and a reason they would believe they could trust him (knowing that, if he lied, they’d use their leverage against him).

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/652 "2022-08-24T02:10:19Z")

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Gaetz won his primary for his Florida House district today, and it wasn’t even close. He’s all but certain to win the general in this strongly Republican district.

> **[Gaetz wins GOP primary in Florida after fending off attacks over sex...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/matt-gaetz-wins-gop-primary-florida-rcna44378)**
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> The Florida congressman spent big on TV while playing up his Trump endorsement and support by Gov. Ron DeSantis.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/653 "2022-08-24T11:49:21Z")

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I demand a recount!

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/654 "2022-08-24T11:54:50Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> Gaetz won his primary for his Florida House district today, and it wasn’t even close. He’s all but certain to win the general in this strongly Republican district. -
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> [Matt Gaetz wins GOP primary in Florida](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/matt-gaetz-wins-gop-primary-florida-rcna44378)

That’s surprising considering how much of his constituency is too young to vote.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/655 "2022-09-18T02:58:47Z")

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CNN article, with an amazingly evocative image of Gaetz that once again calls to mind his similiarity to a member of a comic animated duo.

[https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/17/politics/matt-gaetz-trump-pardon-justice-department/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/17/politics/matt-gaetz-trump-pardon-justice-department/index.html)

> John McEntee, who served as director of the White House Presidential Personnel Office in the Trump Administration, told the committee that Gaetz spoke with him about his process for seeking a pardon relating to the DOJ’s investigation in a short meeting. McEntee told the committee he could not remember if his brief meeting with Gaetz was before or after the attack on the Capitol.

Please note, no new information on the investigation itself, but that _if true_ Gaetz obviously felt himself at some risk. And the fact that he and others requested blanket pardons prior to Trump leaving office is obviously not news. But interesting it came up during the 1/6 investigation.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/656 "2022-09-18T03:04:16Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> Gaetz obviously felt himself at some risk

Of course their standard handwave here, not just Gaetz but any GOP minion found to be begging for a pardon, is that they were simply at risk of being persecuted by those mean old Democrats using criminal prosecution as a tool for political payback, so of course they wanted a pardon to insulate themselves from such left-wing evil.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/657 "2022-09-20T10:04:45Z")

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In the “read somewhere but now can’t find it so - grain of salt and all that”, I read that the ongoing delays in indicting Gaetz are due to the Feds finding more and more things to indict him on, including fraud and embezzlement of COVID-related funds as well as the sex trafficking thing. As such, if and when indictments drop, they are likely to drop in a sizable heap.

Closest story I can find is this from the Daily Beast from last month:

> **[Eight Sources Say Feds Are Not Done With Matt Gaetz](https://www.thedailybeast.com/eight-sources-say-feds-are-not-done-with-matt-gaetz)**
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> It’s been a quiet few months in the probe into allegations that the Florida congressman was involved in underage sex trafficking. But few involved think it’s over.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/658 "2022-09-20T10:44:11Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> they are likely to drop in a sizable heap.

And hopefully from a significant height. Is criming addictive to some people, or is it like quicksand?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/659 "2022-09-20T13:37:34Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Is criming addictive to some people, or is it like quicksand?

I think it’s an “in for a penny, in for a pound” situation.

Once you’re a criminal, you’ve crossed a line you can’t go back over. The idea that “if I do this, I’m now a criminal” is no longer a concern, which makes it easier to do more.

Plus, once you commit one and get away with it, the fear of getting caught decreases and your confidence that you can get away the next one increases.

I imagine that many criminals who get caught and prosecuted have committed so many more crimes that nobody will ever know about.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/660 "2022-09-21T02:03:05Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Is criming addictive to some people, or is it like quicksand?

It helps if you think the laws don’t apply to oh-so-important you.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/661 "2022-09-23T03:22:19Z")

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Or that your pal in the Oval Office has your back.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/662 "2022-09-23T16:28:49Z")

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[Sounds like he’s not gonna face charges](https://wapo.st/3SqDSgT). Not because he’s innocent, but because the key witnesses are liars who will get torn down in front of a jury.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matt-gaetz-being-investigated-for-sex-with-17-year-old-girl-doj-declines-to-charge-2023-02-15/939052/663 "2022-09-23T16:50:07Z")

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Well that’s fucked up.

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