# Matthew Lillard, Tony Shalhoub and a torso, oh my! \*SPOILERS\* **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 28, 2002, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matthew-lillard-tony-shalhoub-and-a-torso-oh-my-spoilers/134267 "2002-10-28T16:38:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2002, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matthew-lillard-tony-shalhoub-and-a-torso-oh-my-spoilers/134267/1 "2002-10-28T16:38:40Z")
I watched _Thirteen Ghosts_ on HBO late Saturday night. It was bad but it wasn’t _that_ bad. See, I’ve this thing for gore. I can’t get enough of it! Whenever a horror movie is released, one of the first things I check is the rating. Rated PG-13? Not enough gore. Don’t get me wrong, no gore doesn’t automatically equal bad (e.g. \*The Sixth Sense), but I likes me gore in a horror movie. Back to the movie. _Thirteen Ghosts_ was a fairly entertaining hour and twenty-some odd minutes of mindless dreck. Yeah, it was predictable, yeah, the plot holes were big enough to drive a Ford Excursion through and, yeah, it had Shannon Elizabeth it but it wasn’t so bad that I had to turn the channel. So there you have it. I didn’t dislike it (but I admit it was bad) and I may even (read: will) buy the DVD to see the making of the ‘ghosts’. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2002, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matthew-lillard-tony-shalhoub-and-a-torso-oh-my-spoilers/134267/2 "2002-10-28T16:55:11Z")
I was entertained by the flick, probably more than I expected. ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2002, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matthew-lillard-tony-shalhoub-and-a-torso-oh-my-spoilers/134267/3 "2002-10-28T17:05:51Z")
Bleck! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2002, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matthew-lillard-tony-shalhoub-and-a-torso-oh-my-spoilers/134267/4 "2002-10-28T17:41:17Z")
I thought it was pretty good. It was at the limit of my gore limit, though. For me, in regards to gore “less is more.” I love horror movies because I like to be scared, and in fact plan to see two back to back on Halloween day ( **Ghost Ship** and **The Ring** ) but my tolerance for blood is relatively low. I’ve never managed to watch an 80’s slasher film all the way through… ---
**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2002, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matthew-lillard-tony-shalhoub-and-a-torso-oh-my-spoilers/134267/5 "2002-10-28T17:45:14Z")
I remember thinking it was all right, too. Tony Shaloub in anything adds to it, and Matthew Lillard is always fun to watch. It wasn’t great horror, but a halfway interesting concept and an enjoyable film. I really miss Tony Shaloub’s TV series, though… the comedy in which he played a horror writer. Pure genius, that was.