# Matthew Shepard interred at National Cathedral **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [October 12, 2018, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matthew-shepard-interred-at-national-cathedral/822837 "2018-10-12T04:00:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matthew-shepard-interred-at-national-cathedral/822837/41 "2018-10-19T12:14:09Z")
Ellington and Hoban in particular, with their personal connections to DC. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matthew-shepard-interred-at-national-cathedral/822837/42 "2018-10-19T13:53:04Z")
> [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](#): > > No, actually there were no burn marks on his body. > The police officers that first freed his body thought they saw burn marks, but these were later found to be welts & bruises from the beating with a gun & fists. The autopsy & medical records don’t have any mention of burns. And that makes it all better? BULLSHIT! And, as was posted above, the autopsy showed NO drugs, and Shepherd had NO history as a drug user. ---
**Author:** ![puddleglum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puddleglum/32/137_2.png) [@puddleglum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puddleglum)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matthew-shepard-interred-at-national-cathedral/822837/43 "2018-10-19T15:53:10Z")
> [@rat\_avatar](#): > > Pre-meditation is _not required_ for Murder in the first degree in Wyoming. > [WY Stat § 6-2-101 :: 6-2-101. Murder in the first degree; penalty. :: 2011 Wyoming Statutes :: US Codes and Statutes :: US Law :: Justia](https://law.justia.com/codes/wyoming/2011/title6/chapter2/section6-2-101/) > > The _gay panic_ claim is a _temporary insanity_ claim. > > Note that outside of one individual who made up claims, no other source involved with this case believes this conspiracy theory. Either way, the gay panic defense was an attempt at second degree murder. The distinction is whether the murder happened in the course of the robbery. If the robbery was premeditated then the murder is first degree or felony murder. If the robbery happened after the gay panic murder then it is separate and thus is second degree murder. ---
**Author:** ![puddleglum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puddleglum/32/137_2.png) [@puddleglum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puddleglum)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matthew-shepard-interred-at-national-cathedral/822837/44 "2018-10-19T16:29:05Z")
> [@Horatio\_Hellpop](#): > > Harvey Milk is certainly closer to the ideal. Harvey Milk was not murdered for being gay either. ---
**Author:** ![TSBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@TSBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TSBG)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matthew-shepard-interred-at-national-cathedral/822837/45 "2018-10-19T16:58:36Z")
> [@puddleglum](#): > > Harvey Milk was not murdered for being gay either. You seem to have a pretty good knowledge of gay people who were murdered, but not for being gay. Do you have a related list of gay people who WERE murdered for being gay? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/matthew-shepard-interred-at-national-cathedral/822837.md?page=2)