# May 18th Graveyard Tour--The Best-Laid Plans
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-18th-graveyard-tour-the-best-laid-plans/174682
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [May 12, 2003, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-18th-graveyard-tour-the-best-laid-plans/174682 "2003-05-12T13:14:06Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@OxyMoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OxyMoron)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2003, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-18th-graveyard-tour-the-best-laid-plans/174682/21 "2003-05-15T14:59:36Z")
Actually, on the contrary: if we’re going to 9th and 20th, the closest stop by a long shot is the F stop at Prospect Park, which is at 8th and 15th. (The N/R would be great for 5th & 25th entrance). I’ll double-check the Service Advisories tomorrow, but as of now it appears that the F will be running normally this weekend.
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### Author:  [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2003, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-18th-graveyard-tour-the-best-laid-plans/174682/22 "2003-05-15T15:28:51Z")
OK, I called the cemetery, and they said, “Yeah take the F to 15th and Prospect Park, and walk five or six blocks along 20th Street and you can’t miss the gate.”
So the F train it is, then, at 6th and 23rd; well meet at the B&N on 6th & 22nd no later than 11:30.
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### Author:  [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2003, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-18th-graveyard-tour-the-best-laid-plans/174682/23 "2003-05-15T16:01:13Z")
I’ll be there. probably meeting in Manhattan (the Barnes & Noble, not the moderator). There’s a chance I may be a we as well.
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### Author:  [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2003, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-18th-graveyard-tour-the-best-laid-plans/174682/24 "2003-05-15T16:18:07Z")
If you’re a we, tell your she to get he there on time—we’re leaving at 11:30 on the dot, and I _know_ you.
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### Author:  [@beerchick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beerchick)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2003, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-18th-graveyard-tour-the-best-laid-plans/174682/25 "2003-05-15T17:34:01Z")
There’s a good chance I’ll be there too. If I can’t make it for grave robbing I should get there for the 5th Ave fair in Brooklyn o’course.
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### Author:  [@Alto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alto)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2003, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-18th-graveyard-tour-the-best-laid-plans/174682/26 "2003-05-15T18:22:05Z")
Darn it, I wanted to come! But I can’t because I’ll be going to another cemetery with my aunt. She wants me to look over the family plots with her and decide if I want one for myself. (Eep!)
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### Author:  [@OxyMoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OxyMoron)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2003, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-18th-graveyard-tour-the-best-laid-plans/174682/27 "2003-05-15T22:02:39Z")
Parking prices: the cheapest I found was around the corner from the B&N, on West 21st between 6th & 7th. It’s an open lot for $8 between 6 am & 6 pm sundays. But the real lesson I learned is that prices are all over the place, with no real rhyme or reason - so if the cheapie I found is full, it pays to spend a couple of minutes shopping. Others right around it ranged from about $10-20 - the most expensive was another open lot, go figger, with a couple of garages in the middle.
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### Author:  [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2003, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-18th-graveyard-tour-the-best-laid-plans/174682/28 "2003-05-15T23:20:30Z")
> [@](#):
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> It’s an open lot for $8 between 6 am & 6 pm sundays.
Is that an hourly or daily rate? (You see how little I know about commuting in the city.)
I checked the online MetroNorth schedule. On the west side of the Hudson (where I live) you have to connect with NJ Transit. I went to their website, but apparently their belief is that if you have to ask for information, you don’t deserve to know. Or I could cross the river and go down direct on the MetroNorth, which is at least willing to reveal their schedule to the casually curious.
Oh well, as long as it doesn’t involve walking, I’ll get down there one way or another.
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### Author:  [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2003, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-18th-graveyard-tour-the-best-laid-plans/174682/29 "2003-05-16T00:38:43Z")
How are we all going to know each other at B&N? I’d hate for anyone to be left behind (no, not like in the Message Board). Cluster 'round me, I guess–I’ll be the middle-aged dowager with the red hair and the big nose, wearing a blue sweater and khaki skirt.
Plan so far: we’ll leave B&N on the dot of 11:30 (yes, I’m obsessive) and take the F train from 6th & 23rd (Manhattan, that is) to the 15th and Prospect Park (Brooklyn) stop–the tour begins at the 9th Avenue & 20th Street gate at 12:50.
For those of you meeting us there, it is _not_ at the big famous gate at 5th & 25th–it’s at the little pokey “servant’s entrance” gate.
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### Author:  [@vix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vix)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2003, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-18th-graveyard-tour-the-best-laid-plans/174682/30 "2003-05-16T00:48:28Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Biggirl \*
> \*\*Geez **vix** , how many of you are there? \*\*
Ah. I posted this in the other thread, but you may not have seen it. (Or you may just want to make fun of me. Whichever). If I come, it’ll be with **Sua**. His flight leaves sometime Sunday afternoon, so the timing of that is the deciding factor.
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### Author:  [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2003, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-18th-graveyard-tour-the-best-laid-plans/174682/31 "2003-05-16T00:48:55Z")
Oh, so NOW it’s 12:50, eh? Planning to leave me behind when I showed up at 1 PM, were you?
Okay, I’m hoping to make it. Tell us again who we’re going to be seeing on this tour…I know that the aforementioned Chicagah gangster/murderer Johnny Torrio is planted near that scrummy little gate, as well as the Sainted Father of Modern Baseball, whose name escapes me at the moment.
Are we going to make it up to Lenny Bernstein? And Lola Montez? And Horace Greeley? And Governor Clinton? I love the statue; he’s wearing a _skirt_.
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### Author:  [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2003, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-18th-graveyard-tour-the-best-laid-plans/174682/32 "2003-05-16T00:53:41Z")
Go [here](http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pis&GRid=208&PIgrid=208&PIcrid=64718&PIpi=171525&pt=DeWitt+Clinton&ShowCemPhotos=Y&), if you don’t believe me. Those Masons are _kinky_.
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### Author:  [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2003, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-18th-graveyard-tour-the-best-laid-plans/174682/33 "2003-05-16T00:55:35Z")
Leave you behind? I’ve got a spade and a . . . Oh, never mind.
I’m not sure who else in on the tour–the _important_ one is Florence LaBadie. Sad little grave, but it’s _Flo_ . . .
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### Author:  [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2003, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-18th-graveyard-tour-the-best-laid-plans/174682/34 "2003-05-16T01:12:29Z")
That wreath’s got legs and little blue socks. Is this normal in Brooklyn ?
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### Author:  [@OxyMoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OxyMoron)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2003, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-18th-graveyard-tour-the-best-laid-plans/174682/35 "2003-05-16T01:18:44Z")
**Nemo** , that was a total “12 hour rate”, but it seems to mean the 12 hours between 6 am and 6 pm, it wasn’t clear what happens if you stay after 6 pm. But for 8 bucks it’s not awful, even if you turn into a pumpkin before dinner.
Now, as for NJ transit/Metro North. Nanuet/Pearl River/Spring Valley (the Pascack Valley Line) doesn’t run on weekends. Period. The Port Jervis line does, but its schedule is from hell: your choice appears to be getting to New York way too early or just a bit too late. And that’s assuming you’re travelling from Suffern - the rest of the line has a grand total of four (count 'em, four trains) each direction the whole day. If you wnat the gory details, click: [http://www.njtransit.com/pdf/rail/r0020.pdf](http://www.njtransit.com/pdf/rail/r0020.pdf).
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### Author:  [@Juniper200](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Juniper200)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2003, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-18th-graveyard-tour-the-best-laid-plans/174682/36 "2003-05-16T03:29:24Z")
'Kay, I’ll be driving in from Stroudsburg Sunday morning and parking near the B&N. We’ll leave PA extra-early in case of construction/traffic/idiots, and if we get there way ahead of time, well, we provincials can always use more time in Gotham.
I’ll be the short brunette in tall boots carrying a camera bag. See you there!
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### Author:  [@GrandfatherTrout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandfatherTrout)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2003, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-18th-graveyard-tour-the-best-laid-plans/174682/37 "2003-05-16T04:15:35Z")
Barring any surprises, or rain, or stuff, I am like totally there.
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### Author:  [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2003, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-18th-graveyard-tour-the-best-laid-plans/174682/38 "2003-05-16T13:32:34Z")
Swell! _So_ looking forward to this, and we are promised (ha) nice weather, too.
The only close call will be picking up my friend Terry—he lives in Brooklyn and doesn’t want to come all the way into NYC or stand alone at the cemetery waiting for us (“You know how us black guys get in graveyards,” he says. “Our eyes go all googly and we say, ‘feets, do yo’ stuff!’”). So we’ll call him as we’re leaving NYC, get in the front car, and _halloo_ for him when we get to the 4th Avenue stop in Brooklyn.
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### Author:  [@stuyguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stuyguy)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2003, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-18th-graveyard-tour-the-best-laid-plans/174682/39 "2003-05-16T15:28:54Z")
I’ll try to make it. I may bring my car/motorcycle, so I might be able to give lift(s).
And Ike, I expect you to listen to my entire schpiel as we stand at the grave of your pal **JST Stranahan** , ok?
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### Author:  [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2003, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-18th-graveyard-tour-the-best-laid-plans/174682/40 "2003-05-16T15:33:32Z")
Now, don’t be too disappointed if we don’t see too many famous dead folks, OK? I remember from the last tour the high points were gorgeous sculptures, and little-known tales of long-forgotten people who had tragic deaths and/or bizarre monuments (like the fellow who was hit by a streetcar, and his wife had a bas-relief of his death scene carved on his tomb!).
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