# May 21st and STILL NO NEW CHICK TRACT.  WAIT--

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**Created:** [May 21, 2011, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-21st-and-still-no-new-chick-tract-wait/582687 "2011-05-21T14:51:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-21st-and-still-no-new-chick-tract-wait/582687/1 "2011-05-21T14:51:45Z")

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I spoke too soon.

[“Why No Revival”](http://www.monsterwax.com/chickreviews3.html#revival) was really the very first Chick tract, although he may have previously made cartoon placards for a prison presentation, and “This was your Life” was made from them.

It was odd in that it was a sort of “in-house” publication that chided his fellow truly-saved ones for neglecting soul-winning of the lost, for hypocrisy and bad witness in their lives, and for divisiveness over silly things like civil rights. (To be fair to JTC, he was very much against race hatred, and probably believed that more conversions plus widespread revival would fix any race-related injustices.)

Just in case some unsaved fellow was reading the tract and laughing his ass off, Sickie Chickie showed a panel of an unsaved man being tossed into hell by an indifferent angel.

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The tract went through two more editions, one in 1970, and one in 1986. See [chickcomics.com](http://chickcomics.com). I recall that the 1986 version was the first to bring in criticism of Catholicism.

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This new tract seems to be, for all intents and purposes, a fourth edition; I don’t see “Why” any more on his site.

This tract has everything.

Just in case you were wondering where JTC stands on the May 21 crap, he hedges with the possibility of it being “tonight.” I may have missed this tract coming out yesterday, but it’s possibly just out today.

He references **Family Guy**.

More on the twin evils of islam and \*\*\*–shudder-- \*\*\*Roman Catholicism.

Even George Bush, a first.

Enough for now.

_ **- The one true Jack** _

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**Author:** ![madrabbitwoman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c37758/32.png) [@madrabbitwoman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madrabbitwoman)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-21st-and-still-no-new-chick-tract-wait/582687/2 "2011-05-21T22:50:13Z")

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Good grief that was hard to read. I ended up having to cut and paste to word so I could read it withouth that headache inducing background.

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-21st-and-still-no-new-chick-tract-wait/582687/3 "2011-05-21T23:08:20Z")

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Here’s the direct link to the tract, which I neglected earlier today:

_[Still No Revival?](http://chick.com/reading/tracts/1069/1069_01.asp)_

It will always be prominent when new on the site, but some folks may be reading this thread into the next bi-month.

Another thing that I wanted to note was that the page number, according to tract page-counting conventions was **21** when JTC mentioned the possibility of the Rapture being tonight.

(Of course, just in case it isn’t all that imminent, he wants to remind everybody about the possibility of sudden death: panel 22B. Vehicle accidents, including planes and trains, have always been a staple in the tracts.)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-21st-and-still-no-new-chick-tract-wait/582687/4 "2011-05-22T01:11:25Z")

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And here’s [Why No Revival?](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0008/0008_01.asp) – copyright 1986, probably not quite the 1961 original, as it has Christian rockers with mohawks in it.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-21st-and-still-no-new-chick-tract-wait/582687/5 "2011-05-22T08:22:11Z")

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Did he really just appropriate art from Family Guy? And this is the first I knew of his KJV only movement, but it doesn’t surprise me. But that all other versions are Catholic and therefore evil?

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-21st-and-still-no-new-chick-tract-wait/582687/6 "2011-05-22T11:48:55Z")

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> Islam grew out of 7th century Arabian culture. It’s a world apart from the west, completely foreign and _totally misunderstood_.

You think?

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-21st-and-still-no-new-chick-tract-wait/582687/7 "2011-05-22T13:25:31Z")

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Incidentally, despite the impression given by the tract, Leviticus 18:22 does not say “Stewie is gay.”

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-21st-and-still-no-new-chick-tract-wait/582687/8 "2011-05-22T13:35:31Z")

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My second year roommate in college out Chicked chick there, anyways. He wouldn’t watch it because it portrays bestiality as normal.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-21st-and-still-no-new-chick-tract-wait/582687/9 "2011-05-22T17:59:52Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> And here’s [Why No Revival?](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0008/0008_01.asp) – copyright 1986, probably not quite the 1961 original, as it has Christian rockers with mohawks in it.

Thank you. For some reason I was finding it hard to locate it on Chick’s site, and that’s why I instead linked to [Kurt K’s site](http://chickcomics.com/) with its [guest review](http://www.monsterwax.com/chickreviews3.html#revival). This is also the real reason I neglected to link to the new tract in my OP. (That, and a creeping time limit.) I was going to make a joke at some point that my forgetting to do so was yet another sign of the end.

Just now I have found an [intermediate page](http://www.monsterwax.com/Tracts.htm), showing the tracts including versions 2 and 3. It turns out that the very first one was one of the rare oversized tracts. “The Beast” was the only oversized one I had come across back in the day. That means that I have only held #2 and 3 in my hand, and never the original. Now I know why for years I had thought that [“This Was Your Life”](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0001/0001_01.asp) preceded it as a published comic.

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Just in case the mods are wondering, I have no particular connection with Kurt Kuersteiner. He apparently deals in the tracts, and doesn’t just give info on the trade; I have never sold a tract, nor have I ever been part of any active promotion of the trade.

Beyond some light e-mail correspondence, including a wry suggestion as to how to celebrate his suggested Jack Chick Day, we would not be considered friends, not even online.

I just find his site interesting.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-21st-and-still-no-new-chick-tract-wait/582687/10 "2011-05-22T18:11:33Z")

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> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> Incidentally, despite the impression given by the tract, Leviticus 18:22 does not say “Stewie is gay.”

It’d be pretty cool if it did, though. We should lobby publishers to add that in to future editions.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-21st-and-still-no-new-chick-tract-wait/582687/11 "2011-05-22T18:55:11Z")

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“When the perfect English Bible was produced in 1611”: just lol.

Ha, that Jesus, always babbling on in English (mind you He also thought the Church was doing the slut walk or something. Pretty strange, even for Chick, to reminisce about early persecutions against Christians AND saying the Catholic Church was wrong from the start).

BTW, that Jesus guy looks like one of those Muslamic turds that constantly threaten America.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-21st-and-still-no-new-chick-tract-wait/582687/12 "2011-05-22T20:06:20Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Did he really just appropriate art from Family Guy? And this is the first I knew of his KJV only movement, but it doesn’t surprise me. But that all other versions are Catholic and therefore evil?

Yes (actually the work of the Gnostic “Alexandria Cult,” but it all ties together in the Vatican). Chick once devoted a whole issue of _Crusader Comics_ just to that.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-21st-and-still-no-new-chick-tract-wait/582687/13 "2011-05-22T20:28:20Z")

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I couldn’t find the _Family Guy_ art. Which panels?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-21st-and-still-no-new-chick-tract-wait/582687/14 "2011-05-22T20:41:18Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I couldn’t find the _Family Guy_ art. Which panels?

[Fourth panel down.](http://chick.com/reading/tracts/1069/1069_01.asp)

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-21st-and-still-no-new-chick-tract-wait/582687/15 "2011-05-23T03:47:27Z")

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Oh. _Still No Revival_. That one I hadn’t seen.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-21st-and-still-no-new-chick-tract-wait/582687/16 "2011-05-23T21:06:16Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Oh. _Still No Revival_. That one I hadn’t seen.

Sorry again about the confusion from my rushed OP.

In addition to the essentially new tract, the site also headlines ["That’s Baphomet?](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1074/1074_01.asp)" which appears to be nothing other than “Curse of Baphomet” (1991)with a new title. [It was reviewed](http://www.monsterwax.com/chickreviews5.html#baphomet) at some point, and the review is available at [Chickcomics.com](http://Chickcomics.com).  
In between, in 2002, the only other Masonry-focused tract came out. “[Good Old Boys](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/5022/5022_01.asp)” was pehaps the very first tract in which Chick clearly departed from OSAS \* and implied that certain extreme sins, apostasy at the very least, could negate even the true salvation experience. (Although, as the tract shows, one can repent all over again.)

The was a review, but you have to buy K.K.'s book to read it.

(JTC has other non- tract lit on Masonry.)

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\*\*\*\* Once Saved Always Saved.\*\*\*

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-21st-and-still-no-new-chick-tract-wait/582687/17 "2011-05-24T22:28:14Z")

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“ **Most churches have been successfully infiltrated by witches.** ”

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-21st-and-still-no-new-chick-tract-wait/582687/18 "2011-05-24T23:17:30Z")

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> [@neuroman](#):
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> “ **Most churches have been successfully infiltrated by witches.** ”

Flying potion requires the fat of unbaptized children. Finding them is not as difficult as you might think . . . once you know your denominations.

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**Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-21st-and-still-no-new-chick-tract-wait/582687/19 "2011-05-25T00:02:30Z")

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> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> Incidentally, despite the impression given by the tract, Leviticus 18:22 does not say “Stewie is gay.”

Maybe your false papist bible doesn’t

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**Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-21st-and-still-no-new-chick-tract-wait/582687/20 "2011-05-25T00:04:58Z")

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Couldn’t FOX or Seth MacFarlene sue Chick for (presumably) unauthorized use of copyrighted characters?

And this is one of the few tracts that makes direct references to real living people which he probably avoided to not get sued.

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