May 5, 1945 - we shall remember.

[QUOTE=Coldfire]
Thanks for the bump, marley!

… I can’t believe it’s been eight frickin’ years since I wrote this. :slight_smile:

But it is a bit of an SDMB gem, and I love to see it resurrected every year. Not so much for my posts, but for the stories other people from various countries in the world have added to it. It completely captures the initial spirit of the thread.

raises wine glass

Here’s to the heroes of '45.
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Cheers to all who served. Dad, Uncle Ed, Uncle Bud, Grandpa Phil: thank you and may you rest in peace.

Every year I remember to cry, for my Uncles and Grandfather, for all the other men I never knew, their families and all of Europe, because of this thread.

Thank you, Coldfire.

I lost my dad just last fall. He was 88 when he died. He went to Normandy on D-Day +17 (IIRC). He served with the 3rd Armored Division, First Army (Spearheaders). He was awarded a Bronze Star, and got a Purple Heart from being wounded in the Battle of the Bulge.

I miss you, Daddy. :frowning:

That was very touching, Coldfire. When my tears dry I will dig out and re-read my old copy of The Hiding Place by Corrie Ten Boom, about her hiding of Jews from the nazis in Haarlem, The Netherlands, a la the Frank house.

I also visited one of the American Military cemeteries in Normandy, when I finished my 22-month tour of US Naval duty homeported in southern France, only 21 years after their liberation. I took a train northward to Bayeux and hitched a ride to Port-en-Bessin and stopped at a pub phone booth to try to look up the address of a local friend I’d met months before. Well, the locals thought I was up to no good so a bike riding gendarme stopped me, took me to the gendarmerie, searched my bag looking for contraband drugs, finding none, suggested I looked like a “wanted” American, but let me go on my way to the cemetery at Colleville-sur-Mer. So much for French gratitude.

The cemetery with graves of 10,000 servicemembers was a truly humbling scene. http://www.linkparis.com/american-cemetary-colleville-sur-mer.htmDuring the same trip I also visited the Holocaust Museum at the Munich suburb of Dachau. Never forget. [http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Dachauscrapbook/Contents.html

I think this year’s bump should be dedicated to the memory of David Simmons.

What my uncle endured.

Thank you to all who served, and all who continue to serve. My Dad was in the Japanese theater, and was a skipper of an LCT. He didn’t see too much action, thank God.

[QUOTE=Coldfire]
On May 5, 1945, the Germans signed a treaty of defeat in Hotel De Wereld (“The World”) in Wageningen, The Netherlands. Earlier that day, the last German troops had been driven across the Dutch-German border by the Allied Forces and the Dutch army. A five year siege ended. People rushed out into the streets and squares of our country, and celebrated their regained freedom, together with the soldiers that drove the enemy away. The Kingdom of the Netherlands was an independant state again.

This evening, at 7:58 pm local time, life stopped in the Netherlands, like it does every year on May 4. Everyone observes two minutes of silence to remember that freedom is not something to take for granted. To remember that people died to regain our freedom: compatriots, but also complete strangers, rushed in by their respective governments to help out a country in need - to combat the evil that had Western Europe in its grip. To remember those who have fallen: Dodenherdenking, the remembrance of the dead.
At the Dam Square in Amsterdam, a ceremony is held every year. The Royal family attends it - they place a commemorative flowerpiece at the National Monument, after which the two minutes of silence are announced by a military trumpet anthem. Usually, some 100,000 people are assembled at the square. There is complete silence for two full minutes. It is a very sad, yet serene moment.

A few years ago, we started inviting German politicians and military leaders to commemorate the dead alongside us. This was a controversial issue at first: however, everyone sees now it is the right thing to do. After all, would it not be shortsighted to assume that no German civilians suffered during WWII? Would it not be idiotic to think that no German soldier was reluctant to carry out Hitler’s evil policies?
The German people have suffered every bit as much as we did. The liberation of Europe was their liberation as well: no longer would they have to exist in a country where dogma and tyranny were the norm.

But mostly, I tend to think about all those British, American and Canadian soldiers that were shipped to Europe. They had nothing to do with this war. I’m sure most of them were terrified when faced with the knowledge they were to be put in a war zone to fight the Germans. But for better or worse, they realised that liberating Europe was indeed in everybody’s interest. From D-Day onward, they slowly but surely forced back the German troops and finally made their way to Berlin. The rest, as they say, is history.

Many young men lost their lives, leaving many more family members and friends behind back home. They paid with their lives for something that wasn’t even going to be theirs: my freedom.

This may, and never will be, forgotten.

Five years ago, I was a student at the University of Maastricht. Maastricht, being in the utter south of the Netherlands, was the first city to be liberated. In 1995, the 50th Anniversary of the Liberation was celebrated. For this occasion, many WWII veterans from the US, Canada and England came over to parade through our streets once more. In full army uniforms, in their original vehiculs. As I was watching the parade, it halted for some reason. A Canadian Jeep stopped in front of me, an old war veteran on the passenger seat. He was visibly touched by the mass attention the parade drew: a mixture of amazement, joy and sadness was written over his face. I stepped up to the Jeep and extended my hand. So did he. As we shook hands, I told him my feelings. I could only use the simplest of words, as there are no words in any language to express my (our, really) gratitude towards these heroes: “Thank you Sir, for liberating my country and giving us back our freedom”.

We looked each other in the eye for a few moments more, and then the parade got moving again. But we both knew that some things span generations. Some sentiments, because of their traumatic and historical nature, are embedded in each of our cultures. World War II, and the consequent Liberation, are among those.

I was born in 1973. Yet, the celebration of our Liberation always has a great impact on me. I will make sure, that my kids will learn to be thankful for their freedom too. And I will also make sure they know who to be thankful to.

If any of you have a father or grandfather that fought for the liberation of Europe: do me a favour and tell them one thing. Tell them, that they are nor forgotten. Nor will they ever be. We will remember, so that this will never happen again.

Thank you.
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thank you.
The US has helped many people and many countries over the years (and hurt many as well but that is another thread). But I am convinced that the Netherlands has, by it’s own example, been our most worthy friend. The country is simply a class act.

I had the pleasure of meeting a team of Netherlanders visiting New Orleans on a Rotary Sponsored trip recently. Like everything else I know about the Netherlands-a class act.

Wow, just wow… I’ve never seen this thread before, even though I’ve been here since the beginning (between lurking and finally joining). I was just don’t go into MPSIMS that often. I saw the post in ATMB asking to bump this thread and decided to click on it… Wow… I’m glad I did. I’ve spend a good amount of time reading through the entire thread, and I’ve had a tear in my eye the entire time. Great thread!

[QUOTE=swampbear]
EJsGirl what a beautiful and moving story! I’m sitting here with tears in my eyes after reading it. If you see Hank in church tomorrow, how bout giving him an extra special doper hug. Wow. Just. Beautiful.
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I still see him every week- he’s in pretty bad shape now. But I’ll say “thank you” one more time this week.

I love this thread. And Coldie, it really is great to have you back. :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=Johnny L.A.]
I think this year’s bump should be dedicated to the memory of David Simmons.
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Sounds good to me.

To my Poppy, who fought in Papua New Guinea in WWII. I was thinking of you on Anzac Day, just a few weeks ago. You never told us your stories, although your experience surely changed your life. I wish you had lived longer, so that I could have asked you about the war. You, and men like you, saved Australia. May God rest your soul.
Lest We Forget

I have nothing to say that hasn’t been said here, already, and better than I ever could – but I wanted to make sure this thread gets its yearly bump, so other people can get a chance to see it – again or for the first time – and perhaps to add to it more than I ever can.

Thank you, Noone.

Thanks, Noone Special. :slight_smile:

This year’s commemoration took on some additional meaning, after last weeks bizarre attack on the royal family. Uncharacterisitc for this ceremony, the crowds applauded Queen Beatrix, in support for her attendance despite the frightening events that took place just last week. I’m not much of a monarchist, but it fitted.

Link with short video impression of the commemoration, text in Dutch, sorry

Sadly, the numbers of those attending seem to be dwindling a bit, these past few years. In the overhead shots, crowds on De Dam looked noticably thinner. In a way it’s inevitable, time marches on of course. But it’s a little sad, regardless. The WWII vets are now but a handful, a fading memory of a heroic generation.

Perhaps in 2010, I shouldn’t just watch it on the telly - it’s a 30 minute metro ride into town. The least I can do.

Again, thanks for the bump!

Many thanks, for Noone Special’s bump and of course for Coldfire’s creation of the thread which is still much appreciated.

Coming this time around close to the anniversary of David Simmons’ passing adds a note even closer to our Doper community. Shall remember, indeed.

May 5… thank you, Coldfire.

It’s hard to believe that I shared with you guys about Hank two years ago (post #375, on April 21, 2007, and again on May 7, 2008) and mentioned that he was in failing health. He is rapidly declining now but still with us, although he doesn’t come to church anymore and has been moved to assisted living. He is a great man, and the world will be a lesser place without him, when the day comes.

We will never forget.

Please do- especially for those of us who can’t go ourselves. :slight_smile:

I am so glad for the bump. I haven’t read this thread before.

My father was in the Navy, he service was in the Pacific. But I have 7 Uncles who survived the was in Europe as well as one who died in the Battle of Bulge. Sadly, all my uncles have sinced passed away.

Thanks Coldfire. Thanks Spoke.

I think it is important to note that the US/GB/Canadian troops did not enter Berlin until after the surrender. I think that we should also mention our Russian friends, since most historians consider that that WWII (in Europe) was won and lost on the Eastern front.