# May I be very un-PC and tell the truth re: Hilton? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 8, 2007, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223 "2007-06-08T04:44:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/201 "2007-06-09T18:52:42Z")
[QUOTE=brazil84] I’m saying that if a members of a team of black athletes had been falsely accused of gang rape by a white woman at a major university, it would not have gotten coverage that was as widespread or as credulous as that in the Duke Lacrosse hoax. Do you agree with this? Or do you want evidence? [/QUOTE] I don’t know how you can argue for this hypothetical. As I already mentioned though, the Kobe Bryant trial was heavily reported on _and_ he wasn’t exactly treated as innocent until proven guilty by the pundits. But go ahead and show some support for your position. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/202 "2007-06-09T18:58:12Z")
[QUOTE=Nzinga, Seated] I can’t imagine who in the hell is pretending there is no disparity in the number of liberals and conservatives in newsrooms. That would indeed be absurd, but I’ve no clue who is pretending that. I just can’t believe that the “_overwhelming_” number of liberals in the media are purposely burying black-on-white crime stories. Do you think that they are? [/QUOTE] Remember, these are the same liberals who have universally (and unilaterally) decided that the war in Iraq is a Bad Thing[sup]TM[/sup] and are suppressing _all_ news stories which _prove_ that we’re handily winning The War Against Terror[sup]TM[/sup]. If you need evidence, just look at the whole Rathergate business where he fabricated memos claiming that Shrub was an idiot in the National Guard. Or something. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/203 "2007-06-09T19:02:49Z")
[QUOTE=you with the face] I don’t know how you can argue for this hypothetical. As I already mentioned though, the Kobe Bryant trial was heavily reported on _and_ he wasn’t exactly treated as innocent until proven guilty by the pundits. [/quote] As I said already, Kobe Bryant was a celebrity. Any time a celebrity is accused of a serious crime, it gets a lot of coverage. > [@](#): > > But go ahead and show some support for your position. Sure, but first tell me that you disagree with it. ---
**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/204 "2007-06-09T19:02:54Z")
Well if it makes the OP feel any better, I for one did not know that Ted Koppel was Jewish. So consider my ignorance fought on that count anyway. I’m unsure what I’m supposed to do with that knowledge, exactly; but it does mean that I now know two solid biographical facts about Ted Koppel, which is two more than I know about Paris Hilton. The other fact is that Koppel once hosted _Nightline_. I’m still unclear on what Ms. Hilton does for a living. Is it even allowed for Jews to wear their hair like that? Isn’t there something in Leviticus about, “If a man’s poofy combover swathe his head from ear to ear until he resemble a muffin, he shall be an abomination unto me?” If it doesn’t actually say that, it ought to. In fact I’m going to pencil it in right now just in case. ---
**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/205 "2007-06-09T19:13:04Z")
[QUOTE=Tuckerfan] Remember, these are the same liberals who have universally (and unilaterally) decided that the war in Iraq is a Bad Thing[sup]TM[/sup] and are suppressing _all_ news stories which _prove_ that we’re handily winning The War Against Terror[sup]TM[/sup]. If you need evidence, just look at the whole Rathergate business where he fabricated memos claiming that Shrub was an idiot in the National Guard. Or something. [/QUOTE] Why do you think God invented Faux News? To set the record STRAIGHT. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/206 "2007-06-09T19:17:10Z")
[QUOTE=if6was9] Why do you think God invented Faux News? To set the record STRAIGHT. 😉 [/QUOTE] Haven’t you read the thread, man? Who’s behind Fox News? Rupert Murdoch, that’s who; Ted Koppel’s partner in crime! They’re ALL pulling the wool over your eyes. [sub]excuse me, must adjust foil hat.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/207 "2007-06-09T19:18:36Z")
[QUOTE=brazil84] Sure, but first tell me that you disagree with it. [/QUOTE] I have no reason to believe it’s true, so consider that disagreement if you like. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/208 "2007-06-09T19:27:31Z")
Good lord, this has become the greatest Pit thread ever! ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/209 "2007-06-09T19:29:58Z")
[QUOTE=brazil84] Let’s be clear what I’m saying: I’m saying that if a members of a team of black athletes had been falsely accused of gang rape by a white woman at a major university, it would not have gotten coverage that was as widespread or as credulous as that in the Duke Lacrosse hoax. Do you agree with this? Or do you want evidence? [/QUOTE] It happened at the University of Colorado just a few years ago, and it was big news. The fact that the athletes were never charged with anything is still widely unknown. Good enough for you? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/210 "2007-06-09T19:30:08Z")
A brief summary of where this thread has taken us thus far: -Racist propaganda video -Liberal media/Ted Koppel/Rupert Murdoch(!) -Jews -Paris Hilton is/isn’t an heiress -Nicole Ritchie is/isn’t black -Hate crime legislation -Neo-nazi kids -Borat -Logical fallacies -Musical theater -A meltdown -Correct spelling of ‘etc.’ -Leonard Pitts -OP is/isn’t a troll -Which posters have lived in black neighborhoods -Lionel Ritchie is/isn’t the whitest man in R&B -Corporate world-domination conspiracies -Interracial crime -Caucasion vs. white -Atheletes and rape -Matthew Shepard -The OP is mentally ill -The war in Iraq -Fox News -Bitchin’ summary of the thread Might I suggest that we next discuss babies left in hot cars? Or “The Office.” ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/211 "2007-06-09T19:31:49Z")
So the news media is kind of like The Matrix, where they intentionally set it up so there’d be conservative news agencies to give the semblance of rebellion but really just to… alright, is Murdoch the Oracle or is he the George Carlin guy or who? And either way I still don’t understand what that big rave they were having down in Zion added. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/212 "2007-06-09T19:35:27Z")
[QUOTE=Happy Lendervedder] A brief summary of where this thread has taken us thus far: -Racist propaganda video -Liberal media/Ted Koppel/Rupert Murdoch(!) -Jews -Paris Hilton is/isn’t an heiress -Nicole Ritchie is/isn’t black -Hate crime legislation -Neo-nazi kids -Borat -Logical fallacies -Musical theater -A meltdown -Correct spelling of ‘etc.’ -Leonard Pitts -OP is/isn’t a troll -Which posters have lived in black neighborhoods -Lionel Ritchie is/isn’t the whitest man in R&B -Corporate world-domination conspiracies -Interracial crime -Caucasion vs. white -Atheletes and rape -Matthew Shepard -The OP is mentally ill -The war in Iraq -Fox News -Bitchin’ summary of the thread Might I suggest that we next discuss babies left in hot cars? Or “The Office.” [/QUOTE] It’s like the Pit version of an MMP. But it needs to have something on de-clawing cats and gun control. ---
**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/213 "2007-06-09T19:40:46Z")
[QUOTE=Colibri] It’s like the Pit version of an MMP. But it needs to have something on de-clawing cats and gun control. [/QUOTE] Liberals are all for de-clawing cats and gun control. Weren’t you at the meeting? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/214 "2007-06-09T19:55:49Z")
[QUOTE=brazil84] Let’s be clear what I’m saying: I’m saying that if a members of a team of black athletes had been falsely accused of gang rape by a white woman at a major university, it would not have gotten coverage that was as widespread or as credulous as that in the Duke Lacrosse hoax. Do you agree with this? Or do you want evidence? [/QUOTE] I disagree, I want evidence, and it better be good. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/215 "2007-06-09T19:56:12Z")
[QUOTE=rayh] Liberals are all for de-clawing cats and gun control. Weren’t you at the meeting? [/QUOTE] I was at the meeting on what I thought was Anti-Tipping. Turned out it was Anti-Circumcision. ---
**Author:** ![neorxnawange](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f4b2a3/32.png) [@neorxnawange](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neorxnawange)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/216 "2007-06-09T20:11:08Z")
Who controls the British crown? Who keeps the metric system down? Koppel, the Jew! Who leaves Atlantis off the maps? Who keeps the Martians under wraps? Koppel, the Jew! Who holds back the electric car? Who makes Steve Gutenberg a star? Koppel, the Jew! Who robs cavefish of their sight? Who rigs every Oscar night? Koppel, the Jew! ---
**Author:** ![capybara](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/capybara/32/202_2.png) [@capybara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capybara)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/217 "2007-06-09T20:11:19Z")
Do neo-Nazis wear shoes in the house? Do the Duke lacrosse players wear motorcycle helmets? In what hand does Paris hold her fork? ---
**Author:** ![Idlewild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8491ac/32.png) [@Idlewild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idlewild)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/218 "2007-06-09T21:34:28Z")
[QUOTE=Sampiro] So the news media is kind of like The Matrix, where they intentionally set it up so there’d be conservative news agencies to give the semblance of rebellion but really just to… alright, is Murdoch the Oracle or is he the George Carlin guy or who? And either way I still don’t understand what that big rave they were having down in Zion added. [/QUOTE] Much needed nudity. ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/219 "2007-06-09T21:51:49Z")
[QUOTE=rayh] Liberals are all for de-clawing cats and gun control. Weren’t you at the meeting? [/QUOTE] I disagree, I want evidence, and it better be good. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/220 "2007-06-10T00:30:53Z")
Some Duke University Lacrosse players raped a de-clawed cat. If only she’d had a gun! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223.md?page=12)