# May I be very un-PC and tell the truth re: Hilton? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 8, 2007, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223 "2007-06-08T04:44:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/221 "2007-06-10T01:31:55Z")
[QUOTE=Larry Borgia] Some Duke University Lacrosse players raped a de-clawed cat. If only she’d had a gun! [/QUOTE] Well, she did run them over with her SUV afterwards, while talking to her boyfriend Ted Koppel on her cellphone. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/222 "2007-06-10T01:40:37Z")
[QUOTE=Happy Lendervedder] A brief summary of where this thread has taken us thus far: [/QUOTE] I bet Paris Hilton complains if the hotel hospitality staff installs the toilet paper roll with the flap over the top, because anything but flap under the bottom is WRONG. And then she doesn’t tip them. ---
**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/223 "2007-06-10T01:55:47Z")
[QUOTE=appleciders] I disagree, I want evidence, and it better be good. [/QUOTE] I’m sorry, the first rule of the Liberal Conspiracy is you don’t talk about the meetings. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/224 "2007-06-10T04:02:19Z")
[QUOTE=Indistinguishable] Ah, yes, I remember [that](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=420176). If only I had had your acuity of foresight. It’s been rather interesting for me to see the evolution of **GuyNBlueJean** ’s posts (or at least my awareness of his posts; I never paid any attention to him before that) from that one, through the one about pre-screening parents/forced sterilization for those on welfare, into the one about outrage at giving Africa AIDS relief (and at all those Africans who should’ve just tried abstinence), being led from somewhere to read his opinions on masturbation, and then eventually ending up here. Each new one truly surprised me with its further descent into madness, yet now, in retrospect, they all cohere into a single consistent picture (well, except for the masturbation one; I guess he has two independent hangups: one about black people and one about sex). (Ah, but they haven’t all been insane. The second **GuyNBlueJean** post I ever saw, after the language one, was him wondering how people could be so foolish as to fall into Amway. I recall thinking at the time “Ah, see, this guy I butted heads with before, he isn’t all bad. Sure, he has some stubbornly prescriptivist leanings, but, then, lots of people do. He’s probably an intelligent enough guy apart from that.” How wrong I was…) [/QUOTE] I’m afraid to admit this, but I’d like to read the one on masturbation. Can you point me to it? I mean, so I can verify fully how just how mad this guy is. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/225 "2007-06-10T04:36:21Z")
[QUOTE=5-4-Fighting] I’m afraid to admit this, but I’d like to read the one on masturbation. Can you point me to it? I mean, so I can verify fully how just how mad this guy is. [/QUOTE] Here you go. > **[how many orgasms could you have in a week?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=422381)** > > I can manage 5 in one day but it would be difficult to keep thast rate up for a week. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/226 "2007-06-10T04:40:29Z")
well, that was perfect ---
**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/227 "2007-06-10T04:46:44Z")
[QUOTE=spooje] Here you go. > **[how many orgasms could you have in a week?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=422381)** > > I can manage 5 in one day but it would be difficult to keep thast rate up for a week. [/QUOTE] Oh, man. This **Guy** is whacked! ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/228 "2007-06-10T04:46:50Z")
The second-weirdest part of it was this: [QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans] It’s shameful, disgusting, perverted, evil, bestial and unholy. [/QUOTE] Shameful, disgusting, perverted, evil, and unholy… well, alright, if you want, we can call it that. But bestial? I suppose that’s left up to the fantasizer… The weirdest part was his reference to loss of “essence”, practically screaming for people to mock him with reference to Dr. Strangelove. I dunno; maybe he really is just a particularly subtle troll. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/229 "2007-06-10T06:02:52Z")
[QUOTE=Hippy Hollow] Oh, man. This **Guy** is whacked! [/QUOTE] But he’d be better off if he’d whack much more often. ---
**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/230 "2007-06-10T06:06:07Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] But he’d be better off if he’d whack much more often. [/QUOTE] 😃 ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/231 "2007-06-10T08:36:38Z")
[QUOTE=Indistinguishable] The second-weirdest part of it was this: Shameful, disgusting, perverted, evil, and unholy… well, alright, if you want, we can call it that. But bestial? I suppose that’s left up to the fantasizer… The weirdest part was his reference to loss of “essence”, practically screaming for people to mock him with reference to Dr. Strangelove. I dunno; maybe he really is just a particularly subtle troll. [/QUOTE] Subtle? Really? ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/232 "2007-06-10T12:35:33Z")
[QUOTE=fetus] If you’re going to fuck with my post and summon my supposed arguments out of thin air, I won’t participate in a debate with you. This conversation is over. Not to mention that you’ve shown your colors (no pun intended) in calling Lionel Richie “white” and asserting that nobody can identify as black without being “ghetto”. Your entry shall be next to **GuyNBlueJeans** in my encyclopedia. [/QUOTE] I was ironically referring to Richie as white, in response to the assertion that he “helped define American blackness.” As for he rest of your complaint, I honestly have no idea what you are on about. I certainly did not say_nobody_ can be anything at all. I was contrasting growing up wealthy in Hollywood with what I have been told over and over, and have no reason to disbelieve, is the typical black experience. The use of “ghetto” was a mistake on my part, for which I apologize. “Street cred” was the phrase I intended to write. Finally, if you put me beside \*\*Guy \*\*in your encyclopedia, where will all the Ds and Es and Fs go? ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/233 "2007-06-10T12:58:39Z")
[QUOTE=Sampiro] I was at the meeting on what I thought was Anti-Tipping. Turned out it was Anti-Circumcision. [/QUOTE] How the heck did you end up that far off? I could see ending up at the Anti-T.P.'ing meeting or the Anti-Teepee’ing or even the Anti-Pipi (Longstock)ing meeting. But Anti-Circumcision? Geez … ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/234 "2007-06-10T13:12:28Z")
[QUOTE=Ponder Stibbons] How the heck did you end up that far off? I could see ending up at the Anti-T.P.'ing meeting or the Anti-Teepee’ing or even the Anti-Pipi (Longstock)ing meeting. But Anti-Circumcision? Geez … [/QUOTE] He got that from one of the leaders of the Liberal Cabal, Jack Dean Tyler. I’d tell you to look it up, but I don’t want to be accused of bringing the servers down. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/235 "2007-06-10T17:57:05Z")
[QUOTE=Kokopilau] If anyone is “arguing merely for the sake of arguing” here, it’s you. You argue shit that nobody cares about because you like to spend time and effort trying to derail the arguments you’re in by focusing not on the topic at hand, but on pointless semantic details that no one but you seems to be concerned about. [/QUOTE] Let me get this straight. You are arguing with me about shit that you don’t care about? So you’re just stirring shit up, right? Just chiming in to provoke a reaction? Not really arguing at all, just chumming the waters to see what pops up? > [@](#): > > So, let me get this straight. Lionel Ritchie is some sort of Uncle Tom who isn’t black enough to actually BE black, and because of that his daughter can’t consider herself the same as the parents she grew up with, which also apparently involves “ghetto cred” (even though such a thing in words or in concept has been an aspect of Nicole Ritchie’s self-identity at all), because there’s only one kind of “black experience” that an african-american can have, and it must involve the ghetto. “Uncle Tom” is your phrase, not mine. Do you even know what it means? What Richie is, is a purveyor of pop music lite. My comment had to do with his style of music, not his politics or character. It was also a response to the comment that he defined the black experience. It is extremely rare for me to make an absolute statement, so your attempt to twist my words is doomed to fail. Perhaps you should learn to read my posts before you try reading stuff into them. While you are at it, you might want to answer some or all of the many simple, direct questions I have asked you. Questions that go to the point of our dispute. Do they make you uncomfortable? > [@](#): > > Are you really such an ignorant bigot, or are you just a colossal douchebag? Fuck away off, you helpless cretin. Bigot? I was marching in Civil Rights demonstrations when you were just a hopeful glint in your coke whore mama’s eye as she sized up another gap-toothed stranger to roll around the alley with. I was the campaign manager for the first black to run for student body president at my high school. I have lost jobs for defending civil rights. I have hired the first blacks ever to work in the warehouse I managed, and had to face flak from the old-timers who wondered why all of a sudden “those people” were employees. Bigot? Yeah, I’m bigoted against stupid ignoramuses who blather on and on about shit they know fuck-all about. You fucking dumbass. ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/236 "2007-06-10T18:24:12Z")
[QUOTE=Ponder Stibbons] How the heck did you end up that far off? I could see ending up at the Anti-T.P.'ing meeting or the Anti-Teepee’ing or even the Anti-Pipi (Longstock)ing meeting. But Anti-Circumcision? Geez … [/QUOTE] Yeah, the anti-circumcision folks are very much pro-tip. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/237 "2007-06-10T20:08:52Z")
[QUOTE=Ponder Stibbons] How the heck did you end up that far off? I could see ending up at the Anti-T.P.'ing meeting or the Anti-Teepee’ing or even the Anti-Pipi (Longstock)ing meeting. But Anti-Circumcision? Geez … [/QUOTE] May want to leave it there. On these boards as in life, circumcision can be a very sore point. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/238 "2007-06-10T20:10:26Z")
[QUOTE=Sampiro] May want to leave it there. On these boards as in life, circumcision can be a very sore point. [/QUOTE] Yeah, this is something you want to snip early. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/239 "2007-06-10T21:54:23Z")
deleted. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/240 "2007-06-10T22:00:48Z")
[QUOTE=spooje] Here you go. > **[how many orgasms could you have in a week?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=422381)** > > I can manage 5 in one day but it would be difficult to keep thast rate up for a week. [/QUOTE] You were waiting for someone to make this specific request so \*you \* could be the one to answer it, right? Oh, and thanks. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223.md?page=13)