# May I be very un-PC and tell the truth re: Hilton? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 8, 2007, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223 "2007-06-08T04:44:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Hubert\_Cumberdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hubert\_Cumberdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hubert_Cumberdale)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/241 "2007-06-10T22:07:00Z")
[QUOTE=Sampiro] The other web site mentioned in the video is equally charming (govvn dot com). The catchphrase is **Vanguard News Network** _No Jews. Just Right._ One of the comments is for a white power rally in Knoxville. Charming. [/QUOTE] This shouldn’t be funny, but I can’t help but hear that in a Borat voice. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/242 "2007-06-10T23:46:02Z")
[QUOTE=5-4-Fighting] deleted. [/QUOTE] Koppel got to you, didn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/243 "2007-06-11T03:52:36Z")
[QUOTE=5-4-Fighting] You were waiting for someone to make this specific request so \*you \* could be the one to answer it, right? Oh, and thanks. [/QUOTE] No pun was intended, I assure you. And you are welcome. ---
**Author:** ![Kokopilau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Kokopilau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kokopilau)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/244 "2007-06-11T13:54:51Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] Let me get this straight. You are arguing with me about shit that you don’t care about? So you’re just stirring shit up, right? Just chiming in to provoke a reaction? Not really arguing at all, just chumming the waters to see what pops up? [/QUOTE] No, I’m arguing with you about Nicole Ritchie. YOU are arguing about pointless semantic minutiae, which is what I don’t care about. Your indignant frothing about > [@](#): > > “Uncle Tom” is your phrase, not mine. Do you even know what it means? Yes. > [@](#): > > What Richie is, is a purveyor of pop music lite. My comment had to do with his style of music, not his politics or character. It was also a response to the comment that he defined the black experience. Which A) wasn’t a comment made by me, so why you’re even bringing that up in response to me is a definite mystery, and B) has absolutely zip to do with Nicole Ritchie’s parents and her sense of self-identity. > [@](#): > > It is extremely rare for me to make an absolute statement, so your attempt to twist my words is doomed to fail. Not everyone is as hung up on literalist semantics as you are. Crying about it won’t help you any. > [@](#): > > Perhaps you should learn to read my posts before you try reading stuff into them. While you are at it, you might want to answer some or all of the many simple, direct questions I have asked you. I have. You pathetically attempted to hide from my answers behind semanticism. > [@](#): > > Fuck away off, you helpless cretin. Bigot? I was marching in Civil Rights demonstrations when you were just a hopeful glint in your coke whore mama’s eye as she sized up another gap-toothed stranger to roll around the alley with. I was the campaign manager for the first black to run for student body president at my high school. I have lost jobs for defending civil rights. I have hired the first blacks ever to work in the warehouse I managed, and had to face flak from the old-timers who wondered why all of a sudden “those people” were employees. Bigot? Yeah, I’m bigoted against stupid ignoramuses who blather on and on about shit they know fuck-all about. You fucking dumbass. I can practically hear the mournful violin music in the background. Those are wonderful stories…you should tell us who they really happened to, so we can congratulate them. So, all of these great things you’ve done give you a pass when you laugh at the daughter of a black couple for daring to think that she’s like her parents, because as the scion of an African-American singer who isn’t black _enough_, in your opinion, she doesn’t have the “ghetto cred” to deserve that appellation? How many civil rights rallies do _I_ have to attend before I can be an official Adjudicator of the African-American Experience too, and be able to tell black people that they just aren’t Black Enough by my exacting standards? ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/245 "2007-06-11T15:04:30Z")
[QUOTE=Kokopilau] How many civil rights rallies do _I_ have to attend before I can be an official Adjudicator of the African-American Experience too, and be able to tell black people that they just aren’t Black Enough by my exacting standards? [/QUOTE] 1. ---
**Author:** ![Kokopilau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Kokopilau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kokopilau)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/246 "2007-06-11T15:09:08Z")
[QUOTE=Kokopilau] Your indignant frothing about [/QUOTE] This should be "Your ignorant frothing about “chumming the waters to see what pops up” is a laughably transparent attempt to redirect the blame for your hijack on to me. Nice attempt at trying to call me a troll without actually, y’know, SAYING troll, though. ---
**Author:** ![Kokopilau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Kokopilau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kokopilau)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/247 "2007-06-11T15:10:44Z")
[QUOTE=you with the face] 400. [/QUOTE] Hmm…is there a membership card I need to get punched at each visit or something, **Contrapuntal**? ---
**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/248 "2007-06-11T16:19:44Z")
Here in Florida they just scan your Black Card. I was issued one by accident back in high school due to a busing error. These days I only use it when I stroll through the black neighborhoods. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/249 "2007-06-11T19:36:38Z")
[QUOTE=Terrifel] Here in Florida they just scan your Black Card. I was issued one by accident back in high school due to a busing error. These days I only use it when I stroll through the black neighborhoods. [/QUOTE] I got mine on ebay. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/250 "2007-06-11T23:20:11Z")
In my day, it was a Ghetto Pass. Man, **everything** ’s PC now. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/251 "2007-06-12T00:06:45Z")
Back when I was a kid, we used tar as our black pass. And we liked it! ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/252 "2007-06-12T00:12:39Z")
GuyNBlueJeans has to be the only Doper ever to go from an OP that makes racist allegations that links to neo-Nazi sites to an OP asking [how to make a good kite](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=424136). That’s gotta be at least 75 non-sequitur points. (I wonder if the ‘t’ in kite was supposed to be a k and he’s just waiting to bring up Koppel again? ---
**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/253 "2007-06-12T00:41:02Z")
[QUOTE=Sampiro] GuyNBlueJeans has to be the only Doper ever to go from an OP that makes racist allegations that links to neo-Nazi sites to an OP asking [how to make a good kite](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=424136). That’s gotta be at least 75 non-sequitur points. (I wonder if the ‘t’ in kite was supposed to be a k and he’s just waiting to bring up Koppel again? [/QUOTE] Of course you’d only use good white pine and white sheets. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/254 "2007-06-12T01:37:48Z")
[QUOTE=Boyo Jim] Back when I was a kid, we used tar as our black pass. And we liked it! [/QUOTE] You had tar? When I was a kid, we used to have to use pumice and trilobite shit! And we liked it! ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/255 "2007-06-12T02:27:50Z")
You had pumice and tar? When I was a kid and we went through an area where black folks lived we’d just yell out “Any one of you messes with us, you’re getting sold to Mississippi and or Louisiana!” Never had a problem. ---
**Author:** ![Kneepants\_Erasmus\_the\_Humanist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/54ee81/32.png) [@Kneepants\_Erasmus\_the\_Humanist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kneepants_Erasmus_the_Humanist)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/256 "2007-06-12T03:13:20Z")
Due to the fact that I have no fucking clue what this thread is supposed to be about at this point, I will opt out and instead present a rewind… **Khan** , because of this: > [@](#): > > Who didn’t report the meateor headed for Earth so Jesus didn’t find out in time to save the dinasaurs from extinction? KOPPEL! and this: > [@](#): > > Who coifs his bronze locks so perfectly and has such a deep, sensuous voice that distracts me from getting aroused by pictures of BEAUTIFUL, CAUCASIAN women when I’m trying to masturbate? KOPPEL! and this: > [@](#): > > For the love of George W. Christ you are my new hero. _affixes gold star to **Khan’s** lapel_ Wear it with pride, buddy. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/257 "2007-06-12T04:40:43Z")
[QUOTE=Kneepants Erasmus, the Humanist] Due to the fact that I have no fucking clue what this thread is supposed to be about at this point [/QUOTE] In my best Kelsey Grammer as Frasier decides to be helpful voice, With thanks to **Happy Lendervedder** and the friendly all-white news team at [post 210](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8663146&postcount=210), perhaps you’ll remember better with a song. Perhaps, one with a melody by Mr. Billy Joel. Jewish, but caucasian. {ahem} Paris Hilton, Aryans, racial bias, media Ted Koppel, Rupert Murdoch, _Gettin’ Ready Rag_. Fox News, N-word, Stripper rape, James Byrd Leonard Pitts, Nazi shits, the murders of two fags. Left wing mods and assholes, is the OP a troll? Interracial, fallacious, final solution 88 skinheads. Mental illness, hate crimes, legislation, Kris Kime Brainwashed shitheads, walk in the ghetto your white ass is dead We didn’t write the OP We thought it was just bitchin’ About Paris Hilton We didn’t write the OP We didn’t start the hijinks But we clicked on its links. Al Sharpton, Zionism, Porno fills BlueJeans with jism “Spoiled Rotten Racist Blacks”, ‘no jews just right’. Satan and his news team, You Tube, You’ll Scream Eurasian, you’re Caucasian or you are just white Masturbation is a sin, GuyNBlueJeans back again, Borgia says crazy kinda hazy Really is he a troll? Duke Lacrosse team, media, athletes and etcetera. Nancy Graceless and what race is Lionel Richie’s Nicole? We didn’t write the OP We thought it was just bitchin’ About Paris Hilton We didn’t write the OP We didn’t start the hijinks But we clicked on its links. ---
**Author:** ![Traveling\_Riverside\_Bluesman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecd19e/32.png) [@Traveling\_Riverside\_Bluesman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Traveling_Riverside_Bluesman)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/258 "2007-06-12T05:10:42Z")
You are my hero, sir. I was just listening to a Billy Joel mix. But that song was not on there. I just thought you all should know that. ---
**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/259 "2007-06-12T06:03:22Z")
_applause_ ---
**Author:** ![Kneepants\_Erasmus\_the\_Humanist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/54ee81/32.png) [@Kneepants\_Erasmus\_the\_Humanist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kneepants_Erasmus_the_Humanist)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/260 "2007-06-12T21:20:16Z")
😃 You just couldn’t wait for the opportunity to post that, eh? Oh, but thanks for sticking a Billy Joel song in my head. Really. Thanks. I fucking _ **hate** _ Billy Joel. :mad: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223.md?page=14)