# May I be very un-PC and tell the truth re: Hilton? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 8, 2007, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223 "2007-06-08T04:44:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/21 "2007-06-08T05:14:06Z")
[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans] And so I highly suspect that the powers that be behind the scenes, i.e. Rupert Murdoch, Satan and Ted Koppel, ect., [/QUOTE] Wait a minute, I thought Rupert Murdoch _was_ Satan. Does this mean he’s Ted Koppel and some other ect. people, too? Boy, that fucker gets around… ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/22 "2007-06-08T05:18:40Z")
[QUOTE=42fish] This is the 2nd thread where you’ve brought up Ted Koppel. May I ask what your beef with him is? Just curious. [/QUOTE] I had completely forgotten about the OP’s hardon for Koppel. [For those interested, here’s a thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=416164&highlight=Koppel) that might open some doors for you into the mind of **GuyNBluejeans**. (It gets going in Post #29) He’s just a bit of a nutter. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/23 "2007-06-08T05:19:40Z")
Interesting how the OP knew that he’d be called a racist. Maybe that’s because . . . he’s a racist! Dude, the whacknut illogic of your OP is the second most entertaining thing I’ve come across lately. Please keep posting. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/24 "2007-06-08T05:22:38Z")
The filth who murdered Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom should be put to death. They happen to be black. Disgusting black pieces of shit have raped and murdered innocent white people before and they will again. Disgusting white pieces of shit have raped and murdered innocent black people before and they will again. Disgusting [any race here] pieces of shit have raped and murdered innocent [any race here] people before and they will again. It sucks and the best you can do is use common sense and (many would disagree) own a gun or else know how to defend yourself. Probably half the people I know well are black and I don’t know any who would defend, cogitatione verbo et opera, the actions of those murderers or object to them being imprisoned for life. (I’d say “object to them being killed” except many people, understandably [though I disagree], object to the death penalty for any reason.) The white people I know would not defend or stop white men who committed a similar crime on a black person. I think it’s because it’s in such times that we transcend ethnicity and become just human, and humans don’t allow humans to get away with that unless they themselves are amoral or insane. I am strongly against key components of hate-crime legislation.\* I was in fact the first gay person I ever knew to speak out against hate-crime legislation- I wrote an editorial on it at least 10 years ago and was blasted by other gays for it. I couldn’t give a fuck about political correctness (respect for others and common decency, yes, but I don’t conflate that with political correctness). I detest Al Sharpton with a non-consuming passion (that is to say I don’t obsess over him, but when I think of him it’s with disdain). But I honestly don’t think “The Judgment of Paris” Hilton has anything to do with her race or race appeasing- she’s not a scapegoat, she’s a spoiled rich bitch who got possibly a harder sentence than most would have gotten because of her fame/infamy and then got it reduced to less than most would have gotten because of her wealth. It’s a non-story. And if you’re worried about crimes against white girls ever going unreported then you must have fallen from Nancy Grace. I understand the point you’re going for, and it’s one that could be argued, but two things I wouldn’t include if you want to make an effective case or even an effective pitting are 1- Paris Hilton 2- neo-Nazi propaganda In fact, Paris Hilton is one of the best arguments I know _against_ white supremacy. :dubious: \*This is to say that I am against sentencing being harsher for “hate” motives. A person who without provocation attacks a person because that person is black/white/gay/Jewish/Muslim should be tried for for attacking another person without provocation; I will trust that the sentence would be appropriate. The only part of hate-crime legislation I do agree with is that if local law enforcement does not pursue the case and there is reason to believe it is due to prejudice then the FBI or other Federal agency should be allowed to step in, and I also believe that motivation should matter in the compilation of statistics. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/25 "2007-06-08T05:24:18Z")
May I be very un-PC and say that the Jew is using the raw strength of the black to oppress the Aryan races? ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/26 "2007-06-08T05:26:30Z")
I’d seen Ted Koppel come up in some other **GuyNBluejeans** thread before, and had just assumed it was some mild dislike of some minor political stance of Koppel’s or something, but the thread **Happy Lendervedder** linked to was… eye-opening? “And as far as I’m concerned, Ted Koppel is the Joseph Goebbels of our time.” Holy shit, man. That’s… that’s… …rather amusingly ironic, in light of the various organizations associated with the link in this OP. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/27 "2007-06-08T05:31:34Z")
[QUOTE=jjimm] May I be very un-PC and say that the Jew is using the raw strength of the black to oppress the Aryan races? [/QUOTE] Duh! First _ROOTS_ dominated the ratings, then _Seinfeld_ did. And show me one hit-show about a white supremacist… it’s all an Afro-Judaic Conspiracy, just like the _Mein Kampf Code_ predicted (it even mentioned the masturbation episode of one and cutting off Kunta Kinte’s foot in the other, and I don’t mind telling you that when the code just gave me the phrases _whining Jew_ - _loves Superman_ - _masturbates_ - _half a foot_ - _Geordi becomes James Evans_ I was confused as all hell as to exactly what was going to happen. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/28 "2007-06-08T05:32:52Z")
So I did my usual thing when a fun whackjob comes along. I googled them up. Sadly, I couldn’t find anything all that interesting. Only stuff similar to what he’s said here, just without the restraint. He’s only got a page and a bit of stuff, mostly commenting on videos and from here. [First comment here on this youtube-y video.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbZvuIcfhwc&mode=related&search) > [@](#): > > I would almost bet that Ted Koppel paid those jackasses to come in and undermine the rally. May each one of those sell-outs have a nice little run-in with one of the millions of hate-filled blacks out there doing their thing. ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/29 "2007-06-08T05:36:09Z")
[QUOTE=Sampiro] One of the comments is for a white power rally in Knoxville. Charming. [/QUOTE] [White Flour!!!](http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=603) Yup, going to hell, anyone want me to save them a seat? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/30 "2007-06-08T05:36:37Z")
[QUOTE=Indistinguishable] I’d seen Ted Koppel come up in some other **GuyNBluejeans** thread before, and had just assumed it was some mild dislike of some minor political stance of Koppel’s or something, but the thread **Happy Lendervedder** linked to was… eye-opening? “And as far as I’m concerned, Ted Koppel is the Joseph Goebbels of our time.” Holy shit, man. That’s… that’s… …rather amusingly ironic, in light of the various organizations associated with the link in this OP. [/QUOTE] 😃 Yeah, you’d expect **GuyNblueJeans** to think being the Joseph Goebbels of our time is an admirable goal to strive for… ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/31 "2007-06-08T05:37:27Z")
[QUOTE=Annie] [White Flour!!!](http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=603) Yup, going to hell, anyone want me to save them a seat? [/QUOTE] Apparently he can’t get it up for his bride, [Mrs. White Flour](http://www.hotrize.com/merchandise/images417/shirts/martha-full-shirt.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/32 "2007-06-08T05:39:56Z")
> [@](#): > > I would almost bet that Ted Koppel paid those jackasses to come in and undermine the rally. May each one of those sell-outs have a nice little run-in with one of the millions of hate-filled blacks out there doing their thing. _I for one welcome our millions of hate-filled black overlords._\* Am I first? Am I first? _Or over_ladies\*, in case they choose Jali for a key office which I’m hoping they will cause she’s cool. UPDATE: One of our own Doper moles died to bring us [this video](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8IslttifU0) of hate-filled black overlords “gettin’ ready” for the takeover in what is clearly some sort of drill. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/33 "2007-06-08T05:45:18Z")
[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold] So I did my usual thing when a fun whackjob comes along. I googled them up. Sadly, I couldn’t find anything all that interesting. Only stuff similar to what he’s said here, just without the restraint. He’s only got a page and a bit of stuff, mostly commenting on videos and from here. [First comment here on this youtube-y video.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbZvuIcfhwc&mode=related&search) [/QUOTE] I noticed in that youtube-y link, a little bit further down in the comments, he gives an ‘Amen’ to one of his own posts. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/34 "2007-06-08T05:48:01Z")
[QUOTE=Happy Lendervedder] I noticed in that youtube-y link, a little bit further down in the comments, he gives an ‘Amen’ to one of his own posts. [/QUOTE] Actually, as far as I can tell the post he gives an “Amen” to is the one saying; > [@](#): > > “Any excuse for a party” > > They think the murder of whites is a joke. I hope those clowns all get kidnapped and raped by a bunch of nigs. Just a bit more un-PC joshing, of course. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/35 "2007-06-08T05:57:59Z")
[QUOTE=Sampiro] UPDATE: One of our own Doper moles died to bring us [this video](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8IslttifU0) of hate-filled black overlords “gettin’ ready” for the takeover in what is clearly some sort of drill. [/QUOTE] :eek: My GOD! Look at the precision! We don’t stand a _chance_! Game over, man, _GAME OVER!_ :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/36 "2007-06-08T05:59:19Z")
[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold] Actually, as far as I can tell the post he gives an “Amen” to is the one saying; > [@](#): > > “Any excuse for a party” > > They think the murder of whites is a joke. I hope those clowns all get kidnapped and raped by a bunch of nigs. [/QUOTE] Yeah, that thought crossed my mind too; I just didn’t want to wrap my head around the fact that our friend **GuYnblUejeans** may be a complete pig-fucking waste-of-skin douchebag that would ‘amen’ something like that. So **guYNbluejeanS** , which was it: were you just givin’ yourself the ol’ ‘amen’ there, or were you ‘amen’-ing the guy who wished for ‘nigs’ to rape some protesters? ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/37 "2007-06-08T06:02:30Z")
**GuyNblueJeans** , man, I had a bad feeling about you. I knew you were a nutcase. Since you’re apparently a Nazi too, you can go straight to hell. I once had a high school history teacher who had taught at a school full of Nazi kids. He said all he had to do was show them footage of the Holocaust death camps and suddenly they were growing their hair out, covering their swastika tattoos and treating people with respect. You know what that made them? Yellow-bellied posers, on top of being world class assholes and idiots. You’ll always be a yellow-bellied poser, a world-class asshole and an idiot, **GuyNblueJeans** , even if you do manage to buy a clue someday. I hope that when your time comes, you will die alone, and slowly. Hopefully you’ll get “initiated” into the white power clique at your local jail a la Edward Norton in _American History X_ sometime between now and then. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/38 "2007-06-08T06:02:46Z")
nothing on “location”, nothing in “public profile”… please don’t let GnBJ be from Alabama, please don’t let GnBJ be from Alabama… I ask of any god who reads this just this one thing, please don’t let GnBJ be from Alabama (really- we can spare some asshole nutcases to other states sometimes… we don’t need them all) ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/39 "2007-06-08T06:10:57Z")
[QUOTE=fetus] I once had a high school history teacher who had taught at a school full of Nazi kids. He said all he had to do was show them footage of the Holocaust death camps and suddenly they were growing their hair out, covering their swastika tattoos and treating people with respect. You know what that made them? Yellow-bellied posers, on top of being world class assholes and idiots. [/QUOTE] Yeah! They should’ve massacred some Jews to show everyone they meant business and just weren’t following the crowd (what?). ---
**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223/40 "2007-06-08T06:21:54Z")
**GuyNblueJeans** , you’re a complete moron. Can you please explain what Ted Koppel, a nice Jewish English boy, ever did to you to earn condemnation every time you open a Pit thread? You do know that he no longer anchors _Nightline_, right? Your pointed white hood is showing once again. Perhaps the tinfoil hat you wear under it makes it more prominent. :rolleyes: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-i-be-very-un-pc-and-tell-the-truth-re-hilton/407223.md?page=3)