# May the 100 Arms of Shiva Reach up Your Ass, Hemant Lakhani **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 14, 2003, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-100-arms-of-shiva-reach-up-your-ass-hemant-lakhani/195077 "2003-08-14T03:58:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-100-arms-of-shiva-reach-up-your-ass-hemant-lakhani/195077/21 "2003-08-14T14:36:50Z")
**Jar** Yeah regarding the sting. Just feels real BSish to me. Looks like the Govt. resources offered to him for the sting was what allowed him to acquire the weapon in the first place. Basically the shadowy network that helped him get the missile was the US government not al qaeda. I have a problem with this being bandied about as some huge terror plot that has been foiled. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-100-arms-of-shiva-reach-up-your-ass-hemant-lakhani/195077/22 "2003-08-14T15:27:05Z")
Ick. **The Nation That Cried Wolf** ---
**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-100-arms-of-shiva-reach-up-your-ass-hemant-lakhani/195077/23 "2003-08-14T16:05:44Z")
I have a problem with the story as well. Lakhani is certainly a sick fuck, but that is all he is. He was putting Russian operatives on the selling end in contact with US operatives on the buying end. Until the real buyers and sellers are caught, it’s a pretty limited victory. He’s still fundamental broken and should be recycled for parts, but I’m not feeling any safer today. ---
**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-100-arms-of-shiva-reach-up-your-ass-hemant-lakhani/195077/24 "2003-08-14T16:35:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by smiling bandit \* > \*\*From what I understand, Shiva would be very happy to stick her amrs up anyone’s ass and then tear them apart from the inside. She’s very inventively violent, Shiva. > > … > > Its your God, don’t complain to me when we say she’s a bloody psycho. \*\* Perhaps you might actually learn about the religion before making ignorant statements such as this. Since you are purposely trying to be offensive, then I’ll just say, shut your mouth and crawl back into your hole you ignorant idiot. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tamerlane \* > \*\*I think you have your gods confused. Shiva isn’t female and while he is associated with destruction, said destruction is also associated with being the necessary precursor to creation. Also, among other things, Shiva destroys evil and ignorance. So while dark-aspected in a sense, he is not necessarily _malevolent_. > > My ( probably imperfect ) understanding, anyway. I’m happy to take correction on the matter. > > - Tamerlane \*\* This is largely correct. I’d also add Shiva has very specific methods by which said destruction takes place and these have ritual significance. Also, in traditional Hindu culture the ass is considered, well, dirty, and should not be associated with God. This is where the source of my irritation is coming from. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-100-arms-of-shiva-reach-up-your-ass-hemant-lakhani/195077/25 "2003-08-14T16:41:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BrightNShiny \* > \*\*Also, in traditional Hindu culture the ass is considered, well, dirty, and should not be associated with God. This is where the source of my irritation is coming from. \*\* Try Preperation H! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-100-arms-of-shiva-reach-up-your-ass-hemant-lakhani/195077/26 "2003-08-14T17:00:23Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by BrightNShiny \* > \*\*I don’t think it was intentional, which is why I calmly pointed it out. However, I do notice that there are many threads started in the BBQPit concerning criminal activity which do not mention J_sus sticking his arms up somebody’s a\*\*. > > I don’t recall threads titled: > > May the 2 arms of J\*sus Reach Up Your A\*\*, Kobe. > > But, whatever. You are free to denigrate my religion. I, of course, am free to tell you that you are doing so. \*\* Quit you’re whining, and there have been plenty of threads about the good and bad points of Christianity. And the title was all in good humour. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-100-arms-of-shiva-reach-up-your-ass-hemant-lakhani/195077/27 "2003-08-14T17:10:11Z")
Given that Hinduism embraces caste discrimination as virtue and its history of barbaric religious rituals like thuggee and suttee, not to mention the current abuses of power by fundamentalist Hindu political groups like Shiv Sena and the BJP, I’m not terribly impressed by **Bright N’ Shiny** ’s protests. ---
**Author:** ![litost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@litost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/litost)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-100-arms-of-shiva-reach-up-your-ass-hemant-lakhani/195077/28 "2003-08-14T17:22:03Z")
What does Hinduism’s history have to do with a Hindu finding something offensive? You insinuating that **Bright N’ Shiny** believes in the caste system, encourages Suttee, and virulent fundamentalism? ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-100-arms-of-shiva-reach-up-your-ass-hemant-lakhani/195077/29 "2003-08-14T17:23:05Z")
Please correct me if I am wrong (I’m pretty sure you will) but isn’t Shiva representative of Good while Kali is representative of Evil? If I’m wrong, then the Cult of Thugi was an mere aberation equivolent to our Jim Jones or WACO cult(s). If Kali is evil, then insulting Kali would only insult people who worship an evil deity…thus if the title was about Kali’s hand, we’d be insulting Evil Hindus \. And the Missle Buying Bastard about whom the thread was directed is Evil without doubt, so we’d be hitting the correct demographic. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-100-arms-of-shiva-reach-up-your-ass-hemant-lakhani/195077/30 "2003-08-14T17:33:35Z")
I think his use of Shiva was simply to utilize the 100 arms as opposed to most other dieties lackluster 2. Aren’t there times on the road you wish you had more than 1 bird to flip? Zenster too. ---
**Author:** ![bayonet1976](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bayonet1976](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bayonet1976)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-100-arms-of-shiva-reach-up-your-ass-hemant-lakhani/195077/31 "2003-08-14T17:40:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Waverly \* > \*\*I have a problem with the story as well. Lakhani is certainly a sick fuck, but that is all he is. He was putting Russian operatives on the selling end in contact with US operatives on the buying end. Until the real buyers and sellers are caught, it’s a pretty limited victory. > > He’s still fundamental broken and should be recycled for parts, but I’m not feeling any safer today. \*\* From [this article](http://www.statesman.com/asection/content/auto/epaper/editions/thursday/news_f3b34336619e30160005.html) today it appears that along with this guy some of the people that handled that money transfer have also been arrested. As I recall this is a top priority for law enforcement since these backroom money transfer are alledged to be a primary mechanism for supporting terror operations. > [@](#): > > Two other defendants were arrested Tuesday for allegedly helping Lakhani facilitate the financial transactions for the missiles. > > Yehuda Abraham, a 76-year-old jeweler from New York’s diamond district, accepted a $30,000 down payment on behalf of Lakhani for the first missile, investigators said. Moinuddeen Ahmed Hameed of Malaysia came to the United States on Tuesday to collect a $500,000 down payment on the $5 million price tag for the 50 other missiles, investigators said. > > Both men are charged with conspiring to operate an unlicensed money transmitting business, but neither was charged with any terrorism- related offenses. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-100-arms-of-shiva-reach-up-your-ass-hemant-lakhani/195077/32 "2003-08-14T17:50:42Z")
So their “sting” netted a couple of crumbs, I still think this is strange. ---
**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-100-arms-of-shiva-reach-up-your-ass-hemant-lakhani/195077/33 "2003-08-14T17:58:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*Given that Hinduism embraces caste discrimination as virtue and its history of barbaric religious rituals like thuggee and suttee, not to mention the current abuses of power by fundamentalist Hindu political groups like Shiv Sena and the BJP, I’m not terribly impressed by **Bright N’ Shiny** ’s protests. \*\* Yes. I agree. Because Bright N’ Shiny is obviously from a culture inferior to mine, she doesn’t get to be offended. Not only that, she practices a religion with a sordid and barbaric history. I can’t stand it when such worthless rabble pretends their history is something worth cherishing. Get a clue. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-100-arms-of-shiva-reach-up-your-ass-hemant-lakhani/195077/34 "2003-08-14T18:02:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by quietman1920 \* > \*\*Please correct me if I am wrong (I’m pretty sure you will) but isn’t Shiva representative of Good while Kali is representative of Evil? If I’m wrong, then the Cult of Thugi was an mere aberation equivolent to our Jim Jones or WACO cult(s). Not exactly. Hinduism doesn’t draw the clear lines of demarcation between good and evil (oops, sorry, Good and Evil) that Christianity does. To Western eyes, Kali, with her neckalce of skulls, blood-red tongue, and fearsome expression, looks like a demon from Hell, but to Hindus she is one aspect of the fiecr warrior/mother goddess Durga, and in her form as Kali she delivers bliss to her devotees. Her bloodthirsty appearance is the representation of her aspect af the destroyer of transitory forms , as symbolized in the story of her creation, when the gods asked Parvati (Shiva’s wife and another aspect of Durga) to fight the demon Raktabija. Anyhoo, Hindu theology is extremely complex and does not lend itself to simplistic dualism. ---
**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-100-arms-of-shiva-reach-up-your-ass-hemant-lakhani/195077/35 "2003-08-14T18:04:26Z")
Some of the statements in this thread have been bigoted and ignorant. **gobear** ’s response to be extremely bigoted, since you attribute the actions of groups such as Shiv Sena to the entire religion. And aren’t you the one who constantly has to clear up misconceptions about LDS (possibly I’m mistaken)? Whatever. I guess it’s bad for people to make derogatory statements about LDS, but it’s ok for you to make such statements about Hinduism. However, rather than continue this in this thread, I’ve opened the following in GD: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=204626](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=204626) ---
**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-100-arms-of-shiva-reach-up-your-ass-hemant-lakhani/195077/36 "2003-08-14T18:05:39Z")
Erp. That’s supposed to read: **gobear** , I find your response… ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-100-arms-of-shiva-reach-up-your-ass-hemant-lakhani/195077/37 "2003-08-14T18:08:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\* Anyhoo, Hindu theology is extremely complex and does not lend itself to simplistic dualism. \*\* Much like The Presidency. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-100-arms-of-shiva-reach-up-your-ass-hemant-lakhani/195077/38 "2003-08-14T18:12:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Waverly \* > \*\*Yes. I agree. Because Bright N’ Shiny is obviously from a culture inferior to mine, she doesn’t get to be offended. Not only that, she practices a religion with a sordid and barbaric history. I can’t stand it when such worthless rabble pretends their history is something worth cherishing. Get a clue. \*\* Fuck you and you moral superiority, **Waverly**. Where did I say her culture was inferior? Where did I say all of Indian culture was sordid and barbaric? I have specific problems with Hinduism which I enumerated. Are you going to defend the treatment meted out to the Dalit in the rural states? Are you going to defend caste discrimination? Religious racism? I’ve spent time in India, I like the people and the country, but there are aspects to Hinduism (which not all Indians practice; did you know that?) that I vehemently dislike. You disagree? Too fuckin’ bad. ---
**Author:** ![tiggeril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tiggeril/32/7234_2.png) [@tiggeril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiggeril)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-100-arms-of-shiva-reach-up-your-ass-hemant-lakhani/195077/39 "2003-08-14T18:29:01Z")
Being Indian myself, and having been raised Hindu (athiest now), I gotta say, I’m with **gobear**. ---
**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-100-arms-of-shiva-reach-up-your-ass-hemant-lakhani/195077/40 "2003-08-14T18:29:25Z")
1. I’m a guy. 2. **gobear** , you’re an asshole. 3. Caste discrimination is illegal in India since independence, and not all branches of Hinduism support a caste system. The branch I follow certainly doesn’t. But I guess that doesn’t matter in you’re sweeping generalizations. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-100-arms-of-shiva-reach-up-your-ass-hemant-lakhani/195077.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-100-arms-of-shiva-reach-up-your-ass-hemant-lakhani/195077.md?page=3)