# May the creator(s) of "System Tool2011" be lobotomized **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 26, 2010, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-creator-s-of-system-tool2011-be-lobotomized/565398 "2010-12-26T02:19:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-creator-s-of-system-tool2011-be-lobotomized/565398/21 "2010-12-29T20:34:25Z")
> [@Leon497](#): > > Damaging a computer should be the same as committing arson, why does no one try to get the legislatures to pass such laws, just what is the downside, folks? If you are against me, why do you want these people to continue? You are so right. When my house burned down, I just spent a few hours reinstalling its OS and it was right as rain. Wonderful analogy. ---
**Author:** ![Leon497](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@Leon497](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leon497)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-creator-s-of-system-tool2011-be-lobotomized/565398/22 "2010-12-29T20:54:37Z")
What about all the data? Suppose you lost your personal business records, or important e-mails and yes it could take weeks to rebuild such records if you even can. So I get the impression Malware is just fine with you because you happen to be ready to reload. Do you really not want anything done to these crooks that extort money for fake anti-virus too? How about credit card fishing, that is OK I guess because you can get another number issued? So you all like the system tool 2011 in the OP then? Very similar to: Why not just blame the victims of car crossfire gunfights too, I mean bullet proof glass is available and they should have had that, and it is not the crooks fault for shooting at random homes or cars, it is mine for not having every barrier up I can buy. Is that the way you all think? ---
**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-creator-s-of-system-tool2011-be-lobotomized/565398/23 "2010-12-29T23:19:19Z")
> [@gladtobeblazed](#): > > Last week I got hit by something that infected explorer.exe and Malwarebytes failed me for the first time. Combofix also failed. I wasted over an hour scanning my system with Avast and Malwarebytes and Combofix before I said the hell with it and reinstalled Windows. 20 minutes to install Windows plus 10 minutes to install my most used apps and my machine was good as new. I’m not going to waste my time trying to fix infections ever again. Fun stuff here > **[Download Best Free Bootable Rescue Disks from Popular Antivirus Companies](https://www.askvg.com/download-free-bootable-rescue-cds-from-kaspersky-bitdefender-avira-f-secure-and-others/)** > > UPDATE: Also check out free Windows Defender Offline Rescue Tool released by Microsoft. Download Windows Defender Offline to Remove Malware from Infected PC Man ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-creator-s-of-system-tool2011-be-lobotomized/565398/24 "2010-12-30T13:03:56Z")
I don’t get malware either as a general rule (running OS X here) but I still run an antivirus program and anti-spyware. I also use Adblock, Flashblock, and NoScript running Firefox, though there’s not much I can do about Safari. I also make sure to have everything running when I use an emulator to run Windows or boot into Windows and of course all such instances of Windows have antivirus and anti-spyware installed. I don’t want problems crossing over and I don’t want to be some kind of Typhoid Mary if I use my computer on an open network. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-creator-s-of-system-tool2011-be-lobotomized/565398/25 "2010-12-30T15:34:13Z")
> [@Leon497](#): > > Well I guess we heard from a Microsoft employee… > > I mean look at all that MS did at the beginning, the browser wars for instance. Why did they care? It was not sold separately so why care who uses another browser? Ahh, but so important if IE is needed to let infections in, for spying and that is JUST what we see. Now we know why they built in the browser too instead of selling it as a product, they wanted to just give away that, but never any other programs. > > Think about that a little and it all fits together so well. But yes now many of the Malware ideas are out and being used by others, pass some tough laws and we could really stop this. Damaging a computer should be the same as committing arson, why does no one try to get the legislatures to pass such laws, just what is the downside, folks? If you are against me, why do you want these people to continue? > > All this Adobe talk, I had heard Active-X was the original bad bad thing doing it (and MS creation) and Adobe just took it as a framework I would assume, probably with some former MS engineers at the helm. Same with Flash. The desire to steal overpowers these folks. You are a crazy person. ---
**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angel_of_the_lord/32/2949_2.png) [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_the_Lord)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-creator-s-of-system-tool2011-be-lobotomized/565398/26 "2010-12-30T15:49:36Z")
I’m normally pretty careful. I don’t go to a ton of websites that might be shady, I use Chrome with the Flash blocked, I don’t download files unless I am absolutely sure of what they are and why I’m downloading them. I’ve never really had an antivirus scanner running full time, and I haven’t had a problem since I was 16–that was eleven years ago, and was because my friend had sent me an infected file. Then, two days ago, I got [this](http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/virus-removal/remove-antivirus-soft). A system restore from an earlier date and a scan with an antivirus did the trick in about an hour, but man, this thing was annoying! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-the-creator-s-of-system-tool2011-be-lobotomized/565398.md?page=1)