# May these, too, pass (May mini-rants)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-these-too-pass-may-mini-rants/852934>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 1, 2020, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-these-too-pass-may-mini-rants/852934 "2020-05-01T00:31:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-these-too-pass-may-mini-rants/852934/61 "2020-05-08T18:51:11Z")

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> [@overlyverbose](#):
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> My BIL is a fucking nutjob and this pandemic has brought out the very worst in him. Only he’s not going the direction of “freedom or die,” he’s more along the lines of, “breathing outside air means certain death.”
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> As a result, neither he nor my nephews have left the house. Since March 10th. It’s almost been two fucking months. And when I say “left the house,” I mean, “walked into the back yard” or “went on a walk.” My sister is miserable. She has to go through a “decontamination zone” whenever she goes to the grocery. Before she goes to the grocery, there is an hour-long discussion of her “strategy.” When she returns, she secretly washes the bleach solutions he sprays directly onto the vegetables.

So it’s okay for HER to go out of the house but too dangerous for him to do so, even if he goes through the same decontamination she does?

There’s a lot more wrong in that marriage than his being a nutjob.

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**Author:** ![overlyverbose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/9dc877/32.png) [@overlyverbose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/overlyverbose)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-these-too-pass-may-mini-rants/852934/62 "2020-05-08T19:41:04Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> So it’s okay for HER to go out of the house but too dangerous for him to do so, even if he goes through the same decontamination she does?
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> There’s a lot more wrong in that marriage than his being a nutjob.

Yeah, that’s the other problem I have. It seems to be all about him - he doesn’t seem worried that his family might get sick. It’s that HE might get sick. Which also pisses me off. I have never once heard him express a substantial amount of concern for his family getting sick over and above that they might get him sick if they catch the virus.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-these-too-pass-may-mini-rants/852934/63 "2020-05-08T22:25:57Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> I plan to. There have been other red flags I’ve not mentioned. He’s preached many a time about how no one is born gay and it’s a sin, etc. It was so nice at first. Always look for red flags, I overlooked them with my ex.

There is a whole parade of red flags regarding that church and its pastor, assuming your description is accurate. One can safely conclude that their theology does not permit female ministers to be ordained (or whatever their equivalent is of ordination); however, from your posts it is more than obvious that the wife is the de facto leader of the church.

Second, it is not likely that they don;t read anything other than the Bible and church-approved literature. What they expect, nay demand is for their flock to only read what the pastor/wife approve and to accept the pastor/wife’s interpretation.

Next, the behavior of the wife towards you is nothing short of abuse. She complained about you not being direct, but her indirect method of belittling you and insulting you is one that can only come about through dedicated and constant practice.

Look, I have no problem with Evangelicalism for the most part, what I have a problem (actually a few problems with) is the behavior of certain Evangelicals and their extremism. Those two people in that church are extremists. One of my favorites of my own sayings is “An extreme position is extremely wrong”. Those two are extremely wrong.

And what hold do they have over you? It seems to be financial. You mentioned earlier that you have been “income-free” for a year, but rely on them for your rent. You can get government assistance for that, especially now. Heck, I would not be surprised if they condemned you for even thinking about seeking government assistance, but the “help” those two proffer is tied with a Gordian Knot. And don’t forget that they are not, according to the Bible, supposed to be doing that for their own glory (such as being indebted somehow to them), but for God’s glory.

Your best bet is to take another poster’s advice and find yourself another venue for your spiritual nourishment, and don’t forget to check on the government programs available.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-these-too-pass-may-mini-rants/852934/64 "2020-05-08T22:42:56Z")

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The rent is one third of income, or 25 dollars. Good news is I got my stimulus check so no worries about that. Thanks for the feedback, sometimes people can see things in ones situation that you can’t, but enough was enough. They will assume I am being rebellious and not teachable but I answer to God.Tomorrow I was supposed to get my printed certificate of membership.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-these-too-pass-may-mini-rants/852934/65 "2020-05-08T22:50:09Z")

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This is her third husband, who keeps saying no one is born gay, and gay people can’t get to heaven, and he knows my son was gay.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-these-too-pass-may-mini-rants/852934/66 "2020-05-08T23:11:29Z")

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How about a rant unrelated to the virus, for a change? It’s more than a week into May, and it was snowing earlier today. We’ve yet to get two nice warm days in a row this entire spring. Usually, by now, it should be above 60 more often than not, and it’s snowing.

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**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-these-too-pass-may-mini-rants/852934/67 "2020-05-08T23:29:01Z")

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Could we split the difference, please? It’s 95F here, and I don’t get along well with temperatures over about 80-ish.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-these-too-pass-may-mini-rants/852934/68 "2020-05-08T23:47:13Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> This is her third husband, who keeps saying no one is born gay, and gay people can’t get to heaven, and he knows my son was gay.

Extremist Christian “leader” with more than one marriage? Nah, nobody saw that one coming.

By the way, “was gay”? Is your son still alive? One does not become Gay or stop being Gay; it’s not a choice.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-these-too-pass-may-mini-rants/852934/69 "2020-05-09T00:20:31Z")

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He died three years ago this month. I was a supportive mom. Pastor claims no one can be born gay, but he hasn’t read about the hormone bath a fetus gets at about eight weeks to form a masculinized brain and body, and sometimes it doesn’t run according to plan. I had been quite polite considering the things he’s said. I’ve always been too polite that way.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-these-too-pass-may-mini-rants/852934/70 "2020-05-09T00:25:57Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> How about a rant unrelated to the virus, for a change? It’s more than a week into May, and it was snowing earlier today. We’ve yet to get two nice warm days in a row this entire spring. Usually, by now, it should be above 60 more often than not, and it’s snowing.

Payback for winter

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-these-too-pass-may-mini-rants/852934/71 "2020-05-09T01:01:37Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> He died three years ago this month. I was a supportive mom. Pastor claims no one can be born gay, but he hasn’t read about the hormone bath a fetus gets at about eight weeks to form a masculinized brain and body, and sometimes it doesn’t run according to plan. I had been quite polite considering the things he’s said. I’ve always been too polite that way.

I’m truly and genuninely sorry for your loss. The preacher’s stance on homosexuality shows that he does not pay attention to science and also that he does read a bit more than scripture.

Here’s hoping you find a better place, as another poster and I have said, for your spiritual nourishment.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-these-too-pass-may-mini-rants/852934/72 "2020-05-09T01:08:34Z")

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Thank you. I texts this woman, her husband and her have a ministry, and she said what I told her is what was discussed on the video. If churches can gather again, I will find a proper one. I’ve belonged to about seven churches all these years and didn’t have this problem. Done talking about it. Now let’s discuss this weather which is proving climate change is right.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-these-too-pass-may-mini-rants/852934/73 "2020-05-09T02:33:47Z")

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Yesterday I had my windows open. Tomorrow we’re expecting snow showers, although no accumulation.

Bugger this for a game of soldiers.

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**Author:** ![saje](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saje/32/3631_2.png) [@saje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saje)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-these-too-pass-may-mini-rants/852934/74 "2020-05-09T10:50:12Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Bugger this for a game of soldiers.

I don’t know what this phrase means, but I like it 😃

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-these-too-pass-may-mini-rants/852934/75 "2020-05-09T15:46:16Z")

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> [@saje](#):
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> I don’t know what this phrase means, but I like it 😃

I picked it up reading Tom Holt books. From the context, I’d say it’s an expression of extreme disgust with a situation that is beyond nonsensical.

Ah. Urban Dictionary [(mostly) agrees](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fuck%20this%20for%20a%20game%20of%20soldiers%21).

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**Author:** ![kiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7feea3/32.png) [@kiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiz)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-these-too-pass-may-mini-rants/852934/76 "2020-05-09T15:48:25Z")

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> [@Llama\_Llogophile](#):
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> After my post I realized it gets worse - there is no surface on which to put anything in the shower, and no place to hang a towel. Have to put soap and stuff on the floor. Unbelievable.

Ours had a very narrow ledge for soap and shampoo.

The sink, OTOH, was one of these futuristic narrow half moon types with a narrow shelf right above it. If you splashed water on your face your hands would hit against it thereby knocking whatever you had on that shelf onto the puddled-from-the-shower floor. Plus no place to hang a hand towel.

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-these-too-pass-may-mini-rants/852934/77 "2020-05-10T13:09:15Z")

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Death toll in my raised garden and flower planters: 2 peppers, 1 basil, holding on two bleeding hearts. They were covered but this freakish weather = bad news for greenery.:eek:

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-these-too-pass-may-mini-rants/852934/78 "2020-05-10T14:07:17Z")

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> [@eenerms](#):
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> Death toll in my raised garden and flower planters: 2 peppers, 1 basil, holding on two bleeding hearts. They were covered but this freakish weather = bad news for greenery.:eek:

Sorry to hear about your casualties.

I’m going out in a little while to check on whether my covered tomato plants survived 29F. There’s nothing that spells “class” in a garden like having overturned trash dumpsters covered with tarps for protection purposes. Martha Stewart would approve. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-these-too-pass-may-mini-rants/852934/79 "2020-05-10T15:04:21Z")

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So… Just to recap… My May Rant  
First there was the ‘General Flynn’  
Then Manafort’s bribe from that Putin  
Thousands dead,Trump’s virus rate  
Unemployment is Depression,Great

Foods stores having product runs  
Let’s not forget ‘fat guys with guns’  
Beaches are going ‘Business Class’  
Constitution used to wipe Trump’s ass…!

Trump aides have the COVID Flu  
Pence aides now say they have it Too!  
States are opening with no heed  
(And Steven Miller Might Still Breed…!)

Ivanka got one positive too  
(As ‘Veruca Salt’ was Bound to Do)  
Jared 'jacked PPE to donor’s Co  
(Where is Homer Simpson’s “Doh!” ? )

Racists shooting joggers from a car  
Shannigans from AG Barr!  
Moscow Mitch wants states all broke  
Texas 'Pubs want us all to croak…!

New Press Bimbo that’d ‘never lie’  
(how fast does 15 minutes fly?)  
FOX only reports on Tara Read  
(Whose lawyer pays kick-backs to GOP???)

FOX notices viewership drop  
(Clogs on that base starting to pop?)  
Trump’s killing off the US Mail  
Too much voting makes his campaigns fail…!

Social Distancing and cops are back  
(who only ticket if you’re black)  
America’s a flaming burning Hell  
Trump says he’s “Great” and “All is Well”…

Not sure how I should bring in this close  
(I’m sure Georgia has a fire hose)  
Trump’s likely digging a new Mote  
(I Hope To God You People Vote…!)

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-these-too-pass-may-mini-rants/852934/80 "2020-05-10T15:41:46Z")

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> [@eenerms](#):
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> Death toll in my raised garden and flower planters: 2 peppers, 1 basil, holding on two bleeding hearts. They were covered but this freakish weather = bad news for greenery.:eek:

Now I understand why folk wisdom says don’t plant your tomatoes after Mother’s Day. Fortunately I started my basil late so it’s still just a little seedling in the window.

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