# Maybe God does not exist
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maybe-god-does-not-exist/377115
**Category:** Great Debates
**Created:** [October 19, 2006, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maybe-god-does-not-exist/377115 "2006-10-19T17:35:53Z")
**Posts on this page:** 17
**Page:** 3
### Author:  [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2006, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maybe-god-does-not-exist/377115/41 "2006-10-29T18:56:44Z")
Maybe I don’t exist. Sometimes I wonder. How would you know? How would I know? How would God know?
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### Author:  [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2006, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maybe-god-does-not-exist/377115/42 "2006-10-29T21:31:30Z")
[QUOTE=ThePCapeman]
You must be referring to more than the finite, [observable universe](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Size_of_the_universe). How do you know it’s infinite? And even if it was, why is it logical to assume anything that can exist does exist? Couldn’t an infinite universe just as easily be infinitely repetitious?
Assuming an infinite universe where everything that can exist does, you seem to be saying that god is therefor possible. So…
…how does and infinite universe prove the existence of a god that is apart from the universe?
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Playing devils advocate it has sometimes crossed my mind that the universe as a whole ,or even as a time constant need not necessarily be based on logic!but its then that I turn to drink … 🙂
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### Author:  [@the\_PC\_apeman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_PC_apeman)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2006, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maybe-god-does-not-exist/377115/43 "2006-10-29T22:06:01Z")
[QUOTE=Lust4Life]
Playing devils advocate it has sometimes crossed my mind that the universe as a whole ,or even as a time constant need not necessarily be based on logic!but its then that I turn to drink … 🙂
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I, personally, wouldn’t say the universe is based on logic. I’d only say that logic is the most useful language in which to discuss the universe. But it’s impotent when it comes to discussions of faith. And I often turn to drink myself. Cheers. 🙂
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### Author:  [@Tom\_Ripley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Ripley)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2006, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maybe-god-does-not-exist/377115/44 "2006-10-30T09:03:50Z")
Debating the intangible has been the basis of our modern science. Socrates, Plato, Aristotle all debated the unseen and unknown and preactically founded out modern society. Im all for debating the existence of god through philosophy, i believe it can be done! Have a little faith!
Side not, i hate fundamentalists of all religions and believe religion itself to be a cancer on the human psyche. Im also an athiest, but im willing to be proven wrong.
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### Author:  [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2006, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maybe-god-does-not-exist/377115/45 "2006-10-30T10:26:06Z")
[QUOTE=ted\_baskerville@yahoo.com]
I need one.
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You can’t have one.
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### Author:  [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2006, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maybe-god-does-not-exist/377115/46 "2006-10-30T10:42:53Z")
[QUOTE=ThePCapeman]
I, personally, wouldn’t say the universe is based on logic. I’d only say that logic is the most useful language in which to discuss the universe. But it’s impotent when it comes to discussions of faith. And I often turn to drink myself. Cheers. 🙂
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Everyone should believe in something. Who’s up for a symposium?
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### Author:  [@Tom\_Ripley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Ripley)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2006, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maybe-god-does-not-exist/377115/47 "2006-10-30T11:45:46Z")
I firmly, and vehemently believe in nothing.
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### Author:  [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2006, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maybe-god-does-not-exist/377115/48 "2006-10-30T11:53:15Z")
[QUOTE=Lightnin’]
First off, that proof against God is just as flawed as any proof FOR God’s existence. He can’t exist, because if he did actually exist, he couldn’t actually exist? Seems circular to me.
However… why would God’s lack of existence mean everything no longer has a “point”? Why do you even need a “point”? My purpose in life is to have as good a time as possible, while I’m here- and to make sure that when I’m gone, people will think of me fondly. I’d also like to have some sort of lasting, positive effect on the future (of course, the best lasting, positive effect would be for me to still be here, which is why I’d rather not die).
If God WERE to exist, your entire purpose in life would be to make sure that he feels good about himself- since, after all, he created you and wants you to worship and love him.
Why is it that making God feel good is a better purpose than making your fellow humans feel good? That’s one thing I don’t like about religion- it marginalizes humanity’s existence and achievements.
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I think even Jesus would agree with you,he is quoted as saying"How can you love the God you can’t see and not love the neighbor you can?"
Monavis
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### Author:  [@the\_PC\_apeman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_PC_apeman)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2006, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maybe-god-does-not-exist/377115/49 "2006-10-30T13:36:21Z")
[QUOTE=Tom Ripley]
I firmly, and vehemently believe in nothing.
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No symposium of drink for you then.
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### Author:  [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2006, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maybe-god-does-not-exist/377115/50 "2006-10-30T13:46:42Z")
:: sound of cork ::
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### Author:  [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2006, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maybe-god-does-not-exist/377115/51 "2006-10-30T23:55:22Z")
[QUOTE=monavis]
I think even Jesus would agree with you,he is quoted as saying"How can you love the God you can’t see and not love the neighbor you can?"
Monavis
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Chapter:verse?
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### Author:  [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2006, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maybe-god-does-not-exist/377115/52 "2006-10-31T17:08:09Z")
[QUOTE=Voyager]
If you think the creation of the world is the most marvelous achievement possible, I suggest you consider a deity who created a world without quite so many earthquakes, tidal waves and volcanos. If a god is responsible, it must be a god in the bottom 10% of his god class.
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Yeah. It’s like the joke about
What do you call the guy who graduates from medical school with the lowest GPA in his class?
Doctor.
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### Author:  [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2006, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maybe-god-does-not-exist/377115/54 "2006-10-31T19:52:57Z")
[QUOTE=Autumn Almanac]
IANA doctor, but I think the correct medical terminology is _teh_ gay.
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And the proper acronym in this case is “IANAL”.
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### Author:  [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2006, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maybe-god-does-not-exist/377115/55 "2006-10-31T20:02:06Z")
[QUOTE=RhysLovesCock]
ever heard of something called Science?
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Please note my response to your comment [in this thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7920797&postcount=23)
Thank you
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### Author:  [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2006, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maybe-god-does-not-exist/377115/56 "2006-10-31T23:54:11Z")
[QUOTE=tomndebb]
Please note my response to your comment [in this thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7920797&postcount=23)
Thank you
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I’ve no dog in this fight but why is his/her comment inappropriate? Seems like an answer to what we’ve been discussing; what’s the purpose of life/alternative to God, etc.
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### Author:  [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2006, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maybe-god-does-not-exist/377115/57 "2006-11-01T00:09:16Z")
Aside from being a silly drive-by, (science says nothing about God, pro or con), the post in this thread was not wholly inappropriate. However, with four similar posts in as many threads, one of which _was_ inappropriate, I was simply trying to catch his or her attention before s/he did something that would get his/her registration revoked on the first day.
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### Author:  [@David\_Simmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_Simmons)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2006, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maybe-god-does-not-exist/377115/58 "2006-11-01T03:27:07Z")
[QUOTE=Voyager]
If you think the creation of the world is the most marvelous achievement possible, I suggest you consider a deity who created a world without quite so many earthquakes, tidal waves and volcanos. If a god is responsible, it must be a god in the bottom 10% of his god class.
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In his rebuttal to the idea of design David Hume wrote that for all we know, this world was the work of an apprentice god who hadn’t quite learned how to do god things yet.
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