# Mays/Musial inspired game

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mays-musial-inspired-game/591748>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 6, 2011, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mays-musial-inspired-game/591748 "2011-08-06T17:09:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mays-musial-inspired-game/591748/1 "2011-08-06T17:09:58Z")

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Here’s the game. We choose up all-time all-star teams. Players are selected on their one-year peak (when you choose a player, specify which year. Once a player is chosen by someone, that player is unpickable even in a different season. ). I go first, everyone else goes second (as a team). I get to choose one player in the first round, you all get to choose two players in the second round, I get to choose three in the third round, etc. except in the tenth round you get to choose 5 players. After round ten, we each have 25 players.  
**Me**  
1  
3  
5  
7  
9  
25

**you all:**  
2  
4  
6  
8  
5  
25

The idea is to come up with a viable team, not just a collection of good players. Since we’re choosing on the basis of one year, rather than career, this may well not be the fifty greatest players ever, but it’s going to be interesting. I’d be astonished if anyone picked Derek Jeter or Pete Rose, for example, since they had better career numbers than single season numbers, but Jeter or Rose just might make a top 50 list.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mays-musial-inspired-game/591748/2 "2011-08-06T17:15:10Z")

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**Round One**

I open the bidding with

Honus Wagner, 1908, SS

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**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mays-musial-inspired-game/591748/3 "2011-08-06T20:07:47Z")

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Babe Ruth OF 1921 BA = 0.378 slugging = 0.846 HR = 59  
Rogers Hornsby 2B 19245 BA = .403 Slugging 0.756 HR = 39

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mays-musial-inspired-game/591748/4 "2011-08-06T21:24:34Z")

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No need for stats–we’ll go over all that later.

Bonds, LF 2001  
Mantle CF 1957  
Lajoie 2b 1910

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**Author:** ![markdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@markdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markdash)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mays-musial-inspired-game/591748/5 "2011-08-07T00:28:50Z")

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Pedro Martinez 2000  
Greg Maddux 1994  
Bob Gibson 1968  
Walter Johnson 1913

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mays-musial-inspired-game/591748/6 "2011-08-07T00:45:22Z")

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Musial 1948  
Ted Williams 1941  
Jim Rice 1978  
Joe Dimaggio 1941  
Yaz 1967

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mays-musial-inspired-game/591748/7 "2011-08-07T01:34:39Z")

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Uh, **etv78** –it’s my turn. Besides, you’re kinda loading up on LFers. You picked 4 (3 if you count Stan as a 1Bman) and I already had Bonds. We’re trying to make a team here, not a bunch of sluggers who will slit each others’ throats for playing time.

I’ll keep Stan, just to show **Charlie Noble** there’s no hard feelings, and since **Markdash** gave you you a 4-man rotation, I’ll grab

Sandy Koufax LHP 1966  
Tris Speaker OF 1912  
G.C. Alexander 1915 and  
Mike Piazza 1997

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mays-musial-inspired-game/591748/8 "2011-08-07T03:33:00Z")

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Guess we need some bats.

Gehrig 1927  
Ted Williams 1941  
Cobb 1911  
Schmidt 1974  
Alex Rodriguez 2000  
Bench 1972

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mays-musial-inspired-game/591748/9 "2011-08-07T12:35:43Z")

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Lefty Grove LHP 1931  
Al Rosen 3b 1953  
Joe Wood RHP 1912  
Dick Allen 3b-ib 1964  
Joe Morgan 2b-ss 1975  
Craig Biggio, c-cf-2b 1997  
Jackie Robinson 2b-3b-of 1951

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mays-musial-inspired-game/591748/10 "2011-08-07T16:11:37Z")

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At the moment, the “rest-of-field” team:

RF Babe Ruth 1921  
2B Rogers Hornsby 1925  
1B Gehrig 1927  
LF Ted Williams 1941  
CF Cobb 1911  
3B Schmidt 1974  
SS Alex Rodriguez 2000  
C Bench 1972

SP Pedro Martinez 2000  
SP Greg Maddux 1994  
SP Bob Gibson 1968  
SP Walter Johnson 1913

And PRR’s team:

Honus Wagner, 1908, SS  
Bonds, LF 2001  
Mantle CF 1957  
Lajoie 2b 1910  
Musial RF 1948  
Mike Piazza C 1997  
Dick Allen 1B 1964  
Al Rosen 3B 1953

SP Sandy Koufax LHP 1966  
SP G.C. Alexander 1915  
SP Joe Wood RHP 1912  
SP Lefty Grove LHP 1931

Bench:  
Tris Speaker OF 1912  
Joe Morgan 2b-ss 1975  
Craig Biggio, c-cf-2b 1997  
Jackie Robinson 2b-3b-of 1951

Do we have a DH?

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mays-musial-inspired-game/591748/11 "2011-08-07T16:23:09Z")

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SP Charles Radbourn, 1894  
RP (R) Mariano Rivera, 1996  
SP (L) Randy Johnson, 2002 (but we’ll bring him out of the bullpen 😉 )

C Todd Hundley, 1997  
SS/CF Robin Yount, 1982  
SS Cal Ripken, 1991  
1B/3B Jimmy Foxx 1932  
LF/pinch-runner Rickey Henderson, 1982\*

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mays-musial-inspired-game/591748/12 "2011-08-07T16:39:31Z")

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Double-x is also my/our emergency catcher (and I’m not sure that counting on 1997 Craig Biggio as your backup catcher is kosher - he hadn’t played a single game at C since 1991).

Also, on second thoughts, let me flip that 1982 Rickey Henderson for a 1983 model; 22 more SB is not worth 23 more CS.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mays-musial-inspired-game/591748/13 "2011-08-07T17:18:16Z")

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Old Hoss didn’t play in 1894 - I’m guessing you meant 1884.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mays-musial-inspired-game/591748/14 "2011-08-07T17:29:33Z")

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Indeed. He’s there in case the entire rest of the pitching staff gets influenza and is out for a week.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mays-musial-inspired-game/591748/15 "2011-08-07T17:38:28Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> Double-x is also my/our emergency catcher (and I’m not sure that counting on 1997 Craig Biggio as your backup catcher is kosher - he hadn’t played a single game at C since 1991).

Like bringing the Unit out of the bullpen is kosher.

Yogi C 1954  
Mays OF 1954  
Roberts P 1953  
Dimaggio OF 1941  
McLain P 1968  
Yount SS-OF 1982  
Yaz OF-1B 1967  
Young SP 1892  
Seaver SP 1971

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mays-musial-inspired-game/591748/16 "2011-08-07T18:44:04Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> Like bringing the Unit out of the bullpen is kosher.

Biggio as emergency catcher is fine, now that you have Berra in there.

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> Yount SS-OF 1982

Try again.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mays-musial-inspired-game/591748/17 "2011-08-07T20:42:32Z")

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Sorry --now I’m torn between Banks and Ozzie Smith for my backup shortstop.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mays-musial-inspired-game/591748/18 "2011-08-07T21:03:19Z")

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How ridiculous can you stretch it? 1976 and 1988 George Brett played a game at short!

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mays-musial-inspired-game/591748/19 "2011-08-07T21:11:34Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> How ridiculous can you stretch it? 1976 and 1988 George Brett played a game at short!

Hell, with that as my standard I might as well as take the best [player](http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mayswi01.shtml) who ever played two games at shortstop, a very valuable and versatile guy.

1954, btw.
