# McCain campaign "push-polling" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 3, 2008, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-push-polling/466308 "2008-10-03T13:34:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-push-polling/466308/61 "2008-10-05T02:26:40Z")
> [@TVeblen](#): > > Now, now. You’re edging into Bricker territory. Your sole point of credibility has been you’re a despicable little cunt but you usually don’t pretend to anything better. You usually glory in it, in fact. So enjoy your refreshing wallow! What caused you to stop being a reasonable poster, and turn into some kind of Rosie O’Donnell/Sandra Bernhard harpy? ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-push-polling/466308/62 "2008-10-05T02:42:23Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream;] What caused you to stop being a reasonable poster, and turn into some kind of Roise O’Donnell/Sandra Bernhard harpy? [/QUOTE] Why did you assume a right to shit on the basics of human decency but somehow escape ridicule as a Coulter knock-off? You’re boring, sweetheart. Even as an deliberate cunt, earnest viciousness and all, your schtick has gotten really stale. But hey, knock yourself out. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-push-polling/466308/63 "2008-10-05T02:48:12Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Anyone want to speculate what its going to be? Reparations!!! Obama is going to tax every hard-working white person in America and give it to lazy black people as reparations for slavery. Or something like that. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-push-polling/466308/64 "2008-10-05T02:49:48Z")
> [@TVeblen](#): > > Why did you assume a right to shit on the basics of human decency but somehow escape ridicule as a Coulter knock-off? How does my thinking that push-polling is not the end of the world as we know it equate to “shitting on the basics of human decency”? Get a grip, woman. ---
**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-push-polling/466308/65 "2008-10-05T05:08:26Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > How does my thinking that push-polling is not the end of the world as we know it equate to “shitting on the basics of human decency”? Get a grip, woman. So I guess when Bush supporters in 2000 push polled South Carolina voters into thinking that McCain’s adopted Bangladeshi daughter was actually his illegitimate child from an interracial tryst, that was just hunky dorey with you? Oh, and in case you think I’m interested in debating the merits of this question, if you answer ‘Yes’ to the above then you really are a steaming pile of shit. It was shit when it happened to McCain, and it’s shit when his supporters do it. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-push-polling/466308/66 "2008-10-05T16:51:53Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > How does my thinking that push-polling is not the end of the world as we know it equate to “shitting on the basics of human decency”? Get a grip, woman. Catfight!! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-push-polling/466308/67 "2008-10-05T17:19:04Z")
> [@leander](#): > > How about: > > [ul] > [li]Do you believe Sen McCain’s previous health problems and bouts with cancer will affect his ability to be president?[/li][li]If Sen McCain’s cancer were to return and he were to die within the next year, would you be comfortable with Gov Palin as president?[/li][li]If Gov Palin is convicted of a crime in Alaska, should she step down?[/li][/ul] > > I’m sure the Republicans wouldn’t mind if that sort of thing occurred, right? Nah, you’re being too honest. Your questions are actually ones that a voter should really be thinking about. Plus it’s actually true that McCain has had bouts with cancer, and there is a chance that Palin would succeed him in office. It’s true that Palin is currently under investigation. A good push-poll has sly innuendo about a basic UN-truth. How about: Would you be more or less likely to vote for McCain if you knew that he had received money in a secret account from Wall Street investment firms? or Would you be more or less likely to vote for the Palin/McCain ticket if it was revealed that Sarah Palin had 2 secret abortions while attending college? Now THOSE are some dirty push polls for ya! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-push-polling/466308/68 "2008-10-05T18:38:53Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > I can’t believe y’all are getting so worked up about this. So a political campaign is making push-poll calls. So what? By your own admission, the “callees” are not harmed. Is your issue that some people are stupid enough to fall for that crap? If so, the fault is their own. **Carol,** consider the hypotheticals in post #67 and ask yourself if your reaction would be the same. ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-push-polling/466308/69 "2008-10-05T18:56:18Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] How does my thinking that push-polling is not the end of the world as we know it equate to “shitting on the basics of human decency”? Get a grip, woman. [/QUOTE] Push-polling _does_ shit on the basics of human decency. Nobody with an ounce of integrity would either do it or excuse it. Doesn’t matter the political party nor the glittery end that’s supposed to justify vicious lies. It’s vile, disgusting behavior and you’re a vile, disgusting little cunt, not for any political persuasion but because you glory in cuntish behavior. It’s funny, dirtrags like you so often seem surpised when you’re not respected. “I get to be a complete shit but people still have to respect me!” ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-push-polling/466308/70 "2008-10-05T19:09:48Z")
> [@TVeblen](#): > > Push-polling _does_ shit on the basics of human decency. Nobody with an ounce of integrity would either do it or excuse it. **TVeblen** , but you’re talking to someone doesn’t even have an eighth of a tsp of integrity. (I may not be your favorite person, to put it mildly, but I must give credit where credit is due-you are kicking some MAJOR ass lately. Rock the fuck on). **Carol Stream** shits on the basics of human decency on a regular basis around here. At the very LEAST, **Carol** , consider that it’s annoying, and right on par with telemarketing, and serves absolutely NO purpose other than to harass and disrupt my daily life. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-push-polling/466308/71 "2008-10-05T19:59:40Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > What caused you to stop being a reasonable poster, and turn into some kind of Rosie O’Donnell/Sandra Bernhard harpy? I’ve been wondering this, too. TVeblen is off his/her meds or something. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-push-polling/466308/72 "2008-10-05T20:01:17Z")
Also, no one has yet offered an argument beyond bald assertion that the McCain campaign is behind this. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-push-polling/466308/73 "2008-10-05T20:03:47Z")
Who else? The Amish? ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-push-polling/466308/74 "2008-10-05T20:55:53Z")
[QUOTE=Rand Rover] Also, no one has yet offered an argument beyond bald assertion that the McCain campaign is behind this. [/QUOTE] Which campaign hired Karl Rove’s spiritual descendant? Oh yeah, McCain. The same maverick good ol’ boy who was so furious when he was on the receiving end of filth and lies spread about him in the last election. McCain is responsible; it’s his campaign, he set the tone and the buck stops with him. If he hadn’t already decided to ‘go negative’ out of desperation, McCain could have reclaimed some statesmanlike credibility by pointedly apologizing to McCain and condemning the tactic. Would have been great PR, in fact. I reserve judgment that McCain’s official handlers are directly behind this specific example of push-polling. I don’t think it’s beneath them but it happened too early and was too clumsily handled. Could be some overly excited campaign workers, inspired by past antics of Rove, Atwater, etc. It still sucks, no matter who did it or why. It’s a _filthy_ tactic. I’m glad there are conservatives and Republicans (not the same thing) who don’t support or poohoo assassination tactics. Interesting, if depressing, those and how many who do, though. ---
**Author:** ![ReuvenB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@ReuvenB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReuvenB)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-push-polling/466308/75 "2008-10-06T01:33:42Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Who else? The Amish? Damn them, the sneaky bastards. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-push-polling/466308/76 "2008-10-06T04:25:26Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I’ve been wondering this, too. TVeblen is off his/her meds or something. Oh, I get it… off his meds… that means he’s crazy, right? LOL You’re a master of wit there **Rand Rover**. And here I just thought your only talent was was to be a festering boil on the ass-crack of humanity. Carry on. If you’re near an orphanage, kick one of the lazy little tax-drains for me will ya? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-push-polling/466308/77 "2008-10-06T10:59:15Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Oh, I get it… off his meds… that means he’s crazy, right? LOL Psst! _Her_. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-push-polling/466308/78 "2008-10-06T11:14:21Z")
Would it surprise you to learn that **Carol Stream** has links to the McCain campaign? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-push-polling/466308/79 "2008-10-06T14:16:41Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Would it surprise you to learn that **Carol Stream** has links to the McCain campaign? And I’ve heard **Shayna** is going to vote for Obama! No really! ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-push-polling/466308/80 "2008-10-06T14:55:47Z")
No, but I’d certainly be interested in any evidence of that nature. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-push-polling/466308.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-push-polling/466308.md?page=5)